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TOPIC: nashville scene music awards
Posted  Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 1:42 PM
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http://www.nashvillescene.com/NSMA_Ballot/
Posted  Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 1:56 PM
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I think the pick for the "Rock/Pop" category is pretty obvious, but I'd be interested to know who you would pick in the other categories. For some of these, I'll just go to each artist's website and vote for the one I think is the prettiest.

(Edited by Tom Foolery at 2:08 pm on Aug. 11, 2004)
grass stains, airplanes, anything and everything
Posted  Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 2:23 PM
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I didn't know that my band was considered "Punk/Hardcore". Guess we better tone that shit down!
Posted  Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 2:37 PM
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Those Legendary Shack*Shakers
Old crow medicine show*
?
?
DJ Chek and Mindub*
Count Bass D*
?
Slack (although close call for Forget Cassettes)
Mattoid
Features (although I think Feable Weiner has a good shot)
Josh Rouse

(*Based on recommendations)

(Edited by carligula at 2:38 pm on Aug. 11, 2004)
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 12:18 PM
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I am not asking for your vote, but merely drawing your attention to the fact that Character is nominated for Rock/Experimental. What you do with this information is up to you...
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Friday, August 13, 2004 at 12:38 PM
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I don't read the Nashville Scene regularly anymore, so could someone kindly fill me in on how they arrived at these nominees? Please tell me they weren't just decided upon by the Scene writers.

I think that the Features are obviously the best artist in their category, but I don't think they'll win. They got a really tough draw being up against Will Hoge, and I think that he will win, just because his audience falls more closely in line with the demographics of the Scene's audience.
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Friday, August 13, 2004 at 1:12 PM
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"Quote from jamiecarroll on Aug. 13, 2004 at 12:38 PM"
I think that the Features are obviously the best artist in their category, but I don't think they'll win. They got a really tough draw being up against Will Hoge, and I think that he will win, just because his audience falls more closely in line with the demographics of the Scene's audience.
My money's on Feable Weiner.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 10:06 AM
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I definitely voted for Character and of course The Features! I will also be sending in the paper ballot under a different name.
"negro frijoles!!" ~m.m.
Posted  Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 3:21 PM
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It was a difficult choice in the poprock category. But since Feable Weiner already took my virginity, I figured the Features could at least have my vote.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. That's when you have to hope even harder, and stick your fingers in your ears and go "la la laaah!"
Posted  Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 6:01 PM
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"Quote from Chiren on Aug. 18, 2004 at 4:21 PM"
But since Feable Weiner already took my virginity,
i find this amusing. no offense to you or the band. biggrin.gif
"negro frijoles!!" ~m.m.
Posted  Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 7:49 PM
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"Quote from jamiecarroll on Aug. 13, 2004 at 11:38 AM"
I don't read the Nashville Scene regularly anymore, so could someone kindly fill me in on how they arrived at these nominees? Please tell me they weren't just decided upon by the Scene writers.
They sent out nomination ballots some time ago via email to industry folk....
Posted  Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 6:03 AM
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Where's DND in all of that list???
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Posted  Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 10:59 AM
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"Quote from mindylieu on Aug. 18, 2004 at 6:01 PM"
"Quote from Chiren on Aug. 18, 2004 at 4:21 PM"
But since Feable Weiner already took my virginity,
i find this amusing. no offense to you or the band. biggrin.gif
I find it disappointing biggrin.gif
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Friday, August 20, 2004 at 7:04 AM
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"Quote from YaDaDaDa on Aug. 19, 2004 at 5:03 AM"
Where's DND in all of that list???
I don't know. I nominated them, of course! They took the artists w/the most nominations and made those the voting choices, so I guess not enough people nominated the band. I don't think it had anything to do with the quality of the music, just the quality of the taste of those submitting nomination forms.
Posted  Friday, September 3, 2004 at 2:28 PM
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HOLY SHIT, the webmaster from MYSPACE just sent out a mass email to every myspace member telling them to vote for Feable Weiner. Although I don't really agree with that kind of strategy, it will be a landslide for the weiner...
Here's the email:

"Feable Weiner has entered a contest for the nashville scene music awards!

You can vote for them and help them to win awesome recording gear!
The link to the voting is here: click here

vote for one band in each category, and be sure to fill out all of the contact info. if
you don't, your vote won't count !! they have ot know you're real. this is very
important.. fill out the info, or your vote won't count. and no they wont spam you. it's
just to keep people from cheating on the votes!

be sure to vote for feable weiner!!!"
Posted  Friday, September 3, 2004 at 2:31 PM
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"Quote from ben*slack on Sep. 3, 2004 at 2:28 PM"
HOLY SHIT, the webmaster from MYSPACE just sent out a mass email to every myspace member telling them to vote for Feable Weiner. Although I don't really agree with that kind of strategy, it will be a landslide for the weiner...
HOLY SHIT, I just commented on this in another thread!
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Friday, September 3, 2004 at 2:35 PM
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Since you have to enter your address and stuff, will votes from out-of-state be counted? 'Cause they fucking shouldn't.

(Edited by MissSeptember at 2:36 pm on Sep. 3, 2004)
That's so NA.
Posted  Friday, September 3, 2004 at 9:06 PM
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"Quote from ben*slack on Sep. 3, 2004 at 1:28 PM"
the webmaster from MYSPACE just sent out a mass email to every myspace member telling them to vote for Feable Weiner.
yet another indictment against them in my book. i don't think i could possibly dislike them any more than i do, especially considering i've never seen them. it all started with the objectionable band name...
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Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 12:16 AM
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It's kind of weird, considering they're playing at the Features' release party in a few days. What a nice, friendly thing to do, you know? Oh well, I guess all's fair in love, war, and the music industry.
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 11:46 AM
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"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 4, 2004 at 12:16 AM"
It's kind of weird, considering they're playing at the Features' release party in a few days. What a nice, friendly thing to do, you know? Oh well, I guess all's fair in love, war, and the music industry.
Perhaps they didn't have much to do with it, or perhaps this means war.
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Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 3:37 PM
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"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 4, 2004 at 12:16 AM"
It's kind of weird, considering they're playing at the Features' release party in a few days. What a nice, friendly thing to do, you know? Oh well, I guess all's fair in love, war, and the music industry.
Just because they're playing a show together doesn't mean each band doesn't want to win. The message from Tom was sent to everyone on myspace-- not specifically to The Features. I just thought it was funny.

I think it was really cool for FW to agree to play the CD release show. They are a huge draw on their own (thanks to their relentless marketing and touring), so it can only be good for The Features. Plus, it takes guts to open for a band with such an opinionated and close-minded fanbase like all of us. When I first mentioned the possibility to Meeks, he said that there was no way these guys would do that for The Features. Turns out, they're great guys and big fans, so they happily agreed.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 4:07 PM
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"Quote from carligula on Sep. 4, 2004 at 2:37 PM"
Plus, it takes guts to open for a band with such an opinionated and close-minded fanbase like all of us.
Not all of us are opinionated and close-minded when it comes to other music.

Most of the people on here - yes
Most of the more casual, non-MB fans- probably not.
Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 4:28 PM
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There's a difference between being closed-minded and just not liking something. I'm willing to bet that everyone here who does not like Feable Weiner, Jetpack, De Novo Dahl, or a million other local bands that have been crucified on here have at least heard what they sound like. Closed-mindedness would only appy to those that hate the band and have never heard them. This could possibly apply to Feable Weiner, though. I really don't like the name.
That's so NA.
Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 5:38 PM
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I honestly doubt that FW had much to do with the message other than having Tom as a fan. I'd bet he's the kind of guy that just likes to support the things he likes, and I'd bet he likes Feeble Weiner or he wouldn't have sent out the message.

That said, I don't really care for Feeble Weiner.
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Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 6:56 PM
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"Quote from deathscythe257 on Sep. 4, 2004 at 5:38 PM"
I honestly doubt that FW had much to do with the message other than having Tom as a fan. I'd bet he's the kind of guy that just likes to support the things he likes, and I'd bet he likes Feeble Weiner or he wouldn't have sent out the message.

That said, I don't really care for Feeble Weiner.
I disagree. Considering Feable Weiner themselves have posted about 340 bulletins trying to get people to vote for them, combined with the fact that they are the most serious self-promoters I have ever come across, I would not be surprised at all if they asked Tom to do it.

That said, I like Feable Weiner. I think they are the tightest and hardest working band in Nashville. Even if you don't like their music, you gotta respect that.
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 10:48 PM
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"Quote from carligula on Sep. 4, 2004 at 3:37 PM"
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 4, 2004 at 12:16 AM"
It's kind of weird, considering they're playing at the Features' release party in a few days.  What a nice, friendly thing to do, you know?  Oh well, I guess all's fair in love, war, and the music industry.
Just because they're playing a show together doesn't mean each band doesn't want to win. The message from Tom was sent to everyone on myspace-- not specifically to The Features. I just thought it was funny.
i think it's bullshit that they got tom to send out the mass email telling god knows how many myspace users to vote for a band they've never heard. it's unfair and pathetic on their behalf.

i also think it's weird that you posted that the features got the email when you knew that everyone that's registered on myspace got the email.

"Quote"
I think it was really cool for FW to agree to play the CD release show.  They are a huge draw on their own (thanks to their relentless marketing and touring), so it can only be good for The Features.  Plus, it takes guts to open for a band with such an opinionated and close-minded fanbase like all of us.  When I first mentioned the possibility to Meeks, he said that there was no way these guys would do that for The Features.  Turns out, they're great guys and big fans, so they happily agreed.


and are you implying that you are responsible for feable weiner opening for the features? was it you that seriously suggested this to management? ghad. i'm used to teh gay coming from you, but i can't believe meeks and rory actually listened to the "nice guy" that everyone likes and that likes all local bands whether they suck or not.

oh, but he's a good guy
and you're close minded

i don't like how this show is going down. i don't like that they've recruited two bands with well established, large fan bases that can headline and have headlined their own shows to play this show.

this show should be about the features and features fans shouldn't have to wade thru all the people that'll be there for the other bands (aka: extra bullshit) at the features cd release show.

and i've seen and hung out with both bands
respect or not
suck = suck
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 12:06 AM
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Sina, I like your posts...

I'm not a huge myspace fan at all (evidenced by my two friends) so I don't really understand how the whole thing works.

1. Can one person really send everyone registered an email?
2. Is Tom guy the head guy, and if so, how does FW know him?

(Edited by joeywade at 11:10 pm on Sep. 4, 2004)
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 12:38 AM
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You can send an e-mail to all your friends, which, after deleting him as a friend, I never got said e-mail. I'm pretty sure the boys know him is because he's the head MySpace guy.
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Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 2:19 AM
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Some of you act like they have broken some kind of rule or something by doing this. I keep expecting to hear someone say "hey, no fair."
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Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 4:13 AM
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"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 4, 2004 at 10:48 PM"
this show should be about the features and features fans shouldn't have to wade thru all the people that'll be there for the other bands (aka: extra bullshit) at the features cd release show.

and i've seen and hung out with both bands
respect or not
suck = suck
This show is about the features....selling as many albums as they can, and everyone who walks through the door, whether they are there for the features are not, will be buying a CD since it's included in the cover. That's why it's good to have other bands with strong followings playing this show.

And I've also seen and hung out with both bands.
And I think both of them are great.
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 4:15 AM
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"Quote from joeywade on Sep. 5, 2004 at 12:06 AM"
1. Can one person really send everyone registered an email?
2. Is Tom guy the head guy, and if so, how does FW know him?
1. Tom is God on Myspace. He has powers the rest of us don't.
2. Feable Weiner knows him because they got Myspace to sponsor their last tour.

"Quote"
You can send an e-mail to all your friends, which, after deleting him as a friend, I never got said e-mail. I'm pretty sure the boys know him is because he's the head MySpace guy.

First of all, I'm not "friends" with Tom, but I got the e-mail. Second, I'm pretty sure no one but Tom can send mass messages. I think you're are thinking of posting a bulletin.

(Edited by Keith at 4:18 am on Sep. 5, 2004)
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 12:28 PM
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well first of all i have to say that I'm pretty good friends with 3 of the 4 guys in feable weiner. I've known atom and jeff and ben a long time and you really can not find nicer guys in too many rock bands. But as both a friend and an observer of this whole spectacle, I have to say that FW made a pretty big gaffe with this stunt. There is a reason that you have to vote for a band in every categorty....its precisely to try to curtail something like this from happening. In other words, the Scene is hoping that people who are fairly familiar with local music will be the core group of voters....i.e. people who go to see shows regularly, many of different genres. And if you haven't seen some of the bands that are nominated, the Scene has gone out of their way to tell you when all the bands are playing, so you can go and make an educated choice.

Now obviously the number of people who will actually go out to see bands for the sole purpose of educating themselves so they can make an inspired vote is very low. But the point is that you have to read between the lines here and realize that the Scene wants people to at least make some sort of attempt to learn about the nominated bands before voting. And Feable Weiner's mass email to every fucking myspace user, 99% of whom have never stepped foot in a Nashville rock club, goes against the spirit of the awards. People go to the ballot, vote for FW, and then just "choose C" for the rest of the bands. Talk about sabotaging an election. And honestly, I'm disappointed that this didn't cross the mind of anyone in the FW camp. I say this as someone who could potentially benefit from all this; my band is nominated in another category and could receive votes from FW fans who have never seen or heard of us. However, I, for one, would prefer that anyone who voted for my band as a result of finding the ballot from that email should be disqualified...I don't want anyone voting for my band if they haven't spent more than 30 seconds listening to an mp3.

More than likely, the Features will lose this vote. Big deal...its only a little contest in a local weekly anyway. Remember, the Features have already won because they've got a major label putting a quarter million dollars (or more) into them. They've impressed a very wide ranging, ASTUTE music audience that extends far past high school/college indie-pop girls and nerd rock fans. I honest to god don't want to come across as mean spirited here because I really like my friends in FW and I want to see them succeed. Just not at the cost of good taste and integrity.

And btw, carl, have you considered alerting anyone at the scene about this?
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 12:56 PM
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"Quote from Keith on Sep. 5, 2004 at 4:13 AM"
And I've also seen and hung out with both bands.
And I think both of them are great.
of course you do, keith

you're in local bands, too and you've gotta support your friends and the local "scene." i would feel obligated, too if i were in your shoes.

well. i wouldn't, but you get the idea
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 1:37 PM
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There is a difference between supporting bands and liking them. I legitimately like both of those bands and it's not because I'm a "high school/college indie-pop girl or a nerd rock fan." Don't you think a "a very wide ranging, ASTUTE music audience" would be MORE likely to like a cross-section of bands from FW to DND to The Features to Character to Slack, etc etc?
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 2:10 PM
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come on, keith. you know as well as i who the typical FW fan is. Of course, there are FW fans outside that demographic...i'm just talking about the majority. The Features, meanwhile, have on the whole an audience of what I'll describe as hardcore music fans with allegiance to no particular genre. Could your AVERAGE Feable Weiner fan talk to you about Roxy Music, Kraftwerk, Joy Division, The Kinks, My Bloody Valentine, or the Pixies??.....There's nothing wrong with that, all I'm saying is that, for what its worth, FW seems to have a very focused audience/demographic, while the Features seem to appeal to people of no particular age or gender, but rather people with a bit more knowledge of various music genres. Theres is nothing wrong with either side of this.

like you said, I'm a features fan, and as such I like 4 of the 5 bands you mentioned. Could the average FW fan say the same thing? maybe, maybe not. Personally, I'd bet against it.
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 5:20 PM
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I think it would be worth contacting/emailing the Scene just to alert them of out-of-state voters, but then again, there might be someone who lives out of the state that has lived here, has heard all the bands, and has a real understanding of whom they are voting for. So ultimately there's probably nothing that can be done about this.
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 5:28 PM
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"Quote"
i also think it's weird that you posted that the features got the email when you knew that everyone that's registered on myspace got the email.

That's called irony, babe. You know, kind of a funny little glitch in the system where even FW's opponents get the request. No one cares if you or I got the message, too. That wasn't the point.


"Quote"
and are you implying that you are responsible for feable weiner opening for the features?  was it you that seriously suggested this to management?  ghad.  i'm used to teh gay coming from you, but i can't believe meeks and rory actually listened to the "nice guy" that everyone likes and that likes all local bands whether they suck or not.

oh, but he's a good guy
and you're close minded

Yes, I was asked who should be on the list of bands to be considered for the show. Actually, this was after first asking that they put Slack on the bill. I suggested several bands I love (Privates, De Novo Dahl, IBL, Forget Cassettes, etc), but when he asked me what band would fill the place-- I said Feable Weiner. The numbers don't lie. Keith has already covered this better than I could.

And I wasn't asked because I'm a "nice guy", I was asked because I know a lot of people on the board and I know how many of them feel because I choose to communicate with them in a constructive way instead of taking out my life's frustrations on them. That, and I actually get off my ass and do stuff for this band instead of sitting in front of a computer bitching about how "ghey" everyone is, how no one knows how to promote this band, and how I'm the last cool person here.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 7:19 PM
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"Quote from carligula on Sep. 5, 2004 at 5:28 PM"
"Quote"
i also think it's weird that you posted that the features got the email when you knew that everyone that's registered on myspace got the email.

That's called irony, babe. You know, kind of a funny little glitch in the system where even FW's opponents get the request. No one cares if you or I got the message, too. That wasn't the point.

ok ok i understand the irony in your post in the myspace thread. but yeah hundreds of thousands of people got the email and the fact that hundreds of thousands of people got the email is a point and issue.

"Quote"
"Quote"
and are you implying that you are responsible for feable weiner opening for the features?  was it you that seriously suggested this to management?  ghad.  i'm used to teh gay coming from you, but i can't believe meeks and rory actually listened to the "nice guy" that everyone likes and that likes all local bands whether they suck or not.

oh, but he's a good guy
and you're close minded

Yes, I was asked who should be on the list of bands to be considered for the show. Actually, this was after first asking that they put Slack on the bill. I suggested several bands I love (Privates, De Novo Dahl, IBL, Forget Cassettes, etc), but when he asked me what band would fill the place-- I said Feable Weiner. The numbers don't lie. Keith has already covered this better than I could.

that's cool that it's become carl's show now. carl's favourite bands play rocketown. yeah! and as long as i've been in the murfreesboro um "scene" i've never heard anyone rant and rave about the next feable weiner show. but it's cool that you love them and got them on the bill! good work carl!

"Quote"
And I wasn't asked because I'm a "nice guy"
i didn't say or imply that they asked you because you're a nice guy, i said
"Quote"
but i can't believe meeks and rory actually listened to the "nice guy" that everyone likes and that likes all local bands whether they suck or not.
i would much rather have someone's opinion that doesn't love everyone and everyone's band so as to keep it real, pearl jam. you know you like almost everything.

"Quote"
I was asked because I know a lot of people on the board and I know how many of them feel
yeah, you're the only one. you were probably asked because you're helping with the myspace account and it was easy. and they want you to feel included since they may or may not feel bad about you working for them for free.

"Quote"
because I choose to communicate with them in a constructive way instead of taking out my life's frustrations on them.  
why are you getting offended and then trying to offend when all that was said is that you're the "nice guy?" how am i not being constructive? and why are you trying to act like no one agrees with me?

"Quote"
That, and I actually get off my ass and do stuff for this band instead of sitting in front of a computer bitching about how "ghey" everyone is, how no one knows how to promote this band, and how I'm the last cool person here.
hey everyone carl put up posters, now bow.
and this is all brand new, no i haven't been bitching and calling people gay and being cooler than anyone here for years, no not me.

someone give carl some extra recognition for helping with the features myspace account and for getting the bill together for the features cd release show.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 7:33 PM
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I'm so ashamed for liking about 25% of the bands I've seen in the past 5 years.

Sina, you might want to read a post or two in this thread about the difference between bands you like and bands that are a big draw. (I would strongly recommend reading some of Keith's posts) That could possibly prevent you from wasting your time and calling me out for liking so many bands.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 8:09 PM
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"Quote from roadie on Sep. 5, 2004 at 2:10 PM"
Roxy Music, Kraftwerk, Joy Division, The Kinks, My Bloody Valentine, or the Pixies??..... the Features seem to appeal to people...with a bit more knowledge of various music genres.
I like most of those bands to some extent, but it isn't exactly a huge representation of "various musical genres." From what I've seen, the majority of Features fans are just as closed-minded about what they listen to as emo kids or whoever. In their own minds, though, they just think they're listening to "better" music. Most of us here, myself somewhat included, are music snobs, and most of us would admit it. When I think of "a very wide ranging music audience," I think more along the lines of JamieCarroll who, even if I don't personally agree, can get comperable enjoyment out of Dave Matthews as Blur, as opposed to someone who gets comperable enjoyment out of Joy Division and Roxy Music. Am I making sense here?
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 8:14 PM
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Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 8:35 PM
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"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 4, 2004 at 10:48 PM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 4, 2004 at 3:37 PM"
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 4, 2004 at 12:16 AM"
It's kind of weird, considering they're playing at the Features' release party in a few days.  What a nice, friendly thing to do, you know?  Oh well, I guess all's fair in love, war, and the music industry.
Just because they're playing a show together doesn't mean each band doesn't want to win. The message from Tom was sent to everyone on myspace-- not specifically to The Features. I just thought it was funny.
i think it's bullshit that they got tom to send out the mass email telling god knows how many myspace users to vote for a band they've never heard. it's unfair and pathetic on their behalf.
I agree, only because it will be encouraging/influencing people outside of middle Tennessee to vote in this poll. And not only is that not what the Scene intended, it's just not right, and yes, Features Troll, it's not fair. Not "not fair" to the Features, though, but "not fair" to the integrity of the Nashville Scene Music Awards in general.

And I would say it's just an ego trip on the Weiner's part, and just laugh it off, but there are some pretty serious prizes up for grabs here, so in my opinion, it's a pretty serious offense. And if I were one of the other nominees, I would be pissed.

It's like bussing in Mexicans to vote in the U.S. election.
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 8:40 PM
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And I just now read roadie's post, so now mine seems redundant. Oh well - I'm glad to know someone else sees it like I do. I can't believe that some of you don't see anything crooked about this.
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 9:20 PM
Post 44 of 89
i don't think we disagree on anything keith. of course, i'll readily admit to being a music snob, but i also think that i, as well as you, and JC, and countless others around here have a taste in music that is more adventureous than the average indie-pop/emo fan. I dunno. Perhaps i'm being presumptuous here. We're all going to think that our respective tastes in music are the best. I'm just saying that an average FW fan is more likely to be loyal to a focused genre. In retrospect, the bands I mentioned are probably not great examples of "various music genres". While I certainly won't claim to have quite an ecclectic taste as JC, I do feel fairly unique in that I regularly listen to classic country, jazz, hip-hop, indie rock, 60's pop, free jazz, electronic music, etc...

whatever...(sound of dead horse being beaten)
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 9:48 PM
Post 45 of 89
as soon as i heard about the CD release party being at rockettown my mind went straight to what the hell are all the features kids going to do without their cigarettes and booze.
well that and every show ive seen at rockettown has had horrible sound. questionable venue choice but im sure it will be a great time nonetheless. just would have rather seen the show old school at 12th and Porter or even the Boro.
but hey, de novo dahl and the features in one night. im happy.
I wanna offended no persons!
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 10:30 PM
Post 46 of 89
"Quote from SuperElk on Sep. 5, 2004 at 9:48 PM"
as soon as i heard about the CD release party being at rockettown my mind went straight to what the hell are all the features kids going to do without their cigarettes and booze.
Exactly. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

Alcohol: folks can do without it
Cigs: not so much
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Sunday, September 5, 2004 at 11:32 PM
Post 47 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 5, 2004 at 10:30 PM"
"Quote from SuperElk on Sep. 5, 2004 at 9:48 PM"
as soon as i heard about the CD release party being at rockettown my mind went straight to what the hell are all the features kids going to do without their cigarettes and booze.
Exactly. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

Alcohol: folks can do without it
Cigs: not so much
I've stopped drinking almost altogether for various reasons, so that part doesn't bother me. As for my need for nicotine, I'm going to use this as a solution:
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(Edited by Ceeze at 11:34 pm on Sep. 5, 2004)
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Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 2:00 AM
Post 48 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 5, 2004 at 8:40 PM"
I can't believe that some of you don't see anything crooked about this.
I was never disagreeing with this part of the discussion. I don't like that Tom has the entire myspace community, most of whom haven't heard any of these bands, voting in this poll. I'm defending their music more than their promotional tactics.
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 11:15 AM
Post 49 of 89
"Quote from Keith on Sep. 6, 2004 at 2:00 AM"
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 5, 2004 at 8:40 PM"
I can't believe that some of you don't see anything crooked about this.
I was never disagreeing with this part of the discussion. I don't like that Tom has the entire myspace community, most of whom haven't heard any of these bands, voting in this poll. I'm defending their music more than their promotional tactics.
of course you don't

but we have to make it a point to disagree with me rather than address the topic at hand
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Post 50 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 5, 2004 at 10:30 PM"
"Quote from SuperElk on Sep. 5, 2004 at 9:48 PM"
as soon as i heard about the CD release party being at rockettown my mind went straight to what the hell are all the features kids going to do without their cigarettes and booze.
Exactly. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

Alcohol: folks can do without it
Cigs: not so much
I can't remember-- do they allow people to leave and come back? If so, I'm sure there'll be ample time to smoke. I would expect Feable Weiner to play at least 40 minutes or so.

If they don't allow people to leave and come back, I hope we get our CDs when we leave and not when we walk in the door. I'd hate to have to carry it around all night when I could just go toss it in my car between bands. Maybe I should ask management about this...

(In case you didn't get my subtle hint, I'm saying that I talk to the management and I make important decisions for the band and for this reason you should not only respect me, but you should praise me for it. After all, I'm not doing this to help my favorite local bands (The Features and Feable Weiner), I'm only doing it to make friends)

(Edited by carligula at 11:40 am on Sep. 6, 2004)
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Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 12:48 PM
Post 51 of 89
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 6, 2004 at 11:38 AM"

(In case you didn't get my subtle hint, I'm saying that I talk to the management and I make important decisions for the band and for this reason you should not only respect me, but you should praise me for it. After all, I'm not doing this to help my favorite local bands (The Features and Feable Weiner), I'm only doing it to make friends)
you already addressed this

and i didn't respond

but yeah, go back to me so you don't have to address the issue at hand.

it's weird, i guess things change in the course of a couple of months, but i've never recalled you being a big fw fan. or a fw fan at all. keith must be getting you into tha good stuff!
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 12:53 PM
Post 52 of 89
The scene knows about this, but there is little they can do. According to my source
"Quote"
either way, it's not like there
were rules against that kind of stuff, so it's kind of
fair game, all's fair in rock and roll ... i mean, how do we know that
someone from another band's mom didn't send out an
email to everyone who works where she does telling
them to vote for her son/daughter's band or something
like that?
This person makes a good point.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 12:56 PM
Post 53 of 89
"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 6, 2004 at 12:48 PM"
but yeah, go back to me so you don't have to address the issue at hand.
Wait, what's the issue at hand? I forgot. I would assume it has everything to do with me and everything I single-handedly do for the band, right?

(Edited by carligula at 12:56 pm on Sep. 6, 2004)
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 1:06 PM
Post 54 of 89
for your past 3 posts in this thread

you are the only one bringing you up in this thread.

if you didn't want the attention you would've dropped the subject of you 3 posts ago when no one replied.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 1:14 PM
Post 55 of 89
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 6, 2004 at 12:53 PM"
The scene knows about this, but there is little they can do. According to my source
"Quote"
either way, it's not like there
were rules against that kind of stuff, so it's kind of
fair game, all's fair in rock and roll ... i mean, how do we know that
someone from another band's mom didn't send out an
email to everyone who works where she does telling
them to vote for her son/daughter's band or something
like that?
This person makes a good point.
that would be an excellent point

if someone's mother worked with hundreds of thousands of people.

do you guys know how many people are registered on myspace and got the email? it's not a couple of hundred.

my friend brooke knows tom IRL(!!!) and she runs an online community with thousands of users that would do what she wanted at the drop of a hat. (kinda like tom.) she agreed this was an abuse of power on both tom and fw's part and told him so.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 1:15 PM
Post 56 of 89
Once again, what's the issue at hand?
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 1:27 PM
Post 57 of 89
"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 6, 2004 at 1:14 PM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 6, 2004 at 12:53 PM"
The scene knows about this, but there is little they can do.  According to my source
"Quote"
either way, it's not like there
were rules against that kind of stuff, so it's kind of
fair game, all's fair in rock and roll ... i mean, how do we know that
someone from another band's mom didn't send out an
email to everyone who works where she does telling
them to vote for her son/daughter's band or something
like that?
This person makes a good point.
that would be an excellent point

if someone's mother worked with hundreds of thousands of people.

do you guys know how many people are registered on myspace and got the email? it's not a couple of hundred.

my friend brooke knows tom IRL(!!!) and she runs an online community with thousands of users that would do what she wanted at the drop of a hat. (kinda like tom.) she agreed this was an abuse of power on both tom and fw's part and told him so.
Wow, you know someone that knows TOM!!!! You know everybody!!!!!!!!

I'm more concerned with the principles than the numbers. My friend was saying that there are various ways of soliciting votes from people who couldn't and wouldn't make an educated choice of their favorite band. He was just using one example of how bands could be getting votes in a shifty way. He wasn't suggesting how a band could retaliate to compensate for the influx of votes. He went on to say (no, I didn't quote the whole email) that this is an extreme case, but the main reason they're getting attacked about it is because so many people know about it.

By the way, just because a message reaches more people, it doesn't mean that it will necessarily garner a larger response. The overwhelming vibe I get about Tom is that people think he's a big dork. I would bet that his opinion on something is considered a strike against a band to most myspacers. If, however, someone was a respected, influential person reaching a hundred or so people, they might actually be more successful.

As always, I have nothing to back this up. Except this.

(Edited by carligula at 1:30 pm on Sep. 6, 2004)
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Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 1:42 PM
Post 58 of 89
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 6, 2004 at 12:53 PM"
The scene knows about this, but there is little they can do. According to my source
"Quote"
either way, it's not like there
were rules against that kind of stuff, so it's kind of
fair game, all's fair in rock and roll ... i mean, how do we know that
someone from another band's mom didn't send out an
email to everyone who works where she does telling
them to vote for her son/daughter's band or something
like that?
This person makes a good point.
Look, I'm not calling for the Scene to disallow all votes from out of state. I agree that there's not really anything they can do about it. I'm calling out Feable Wiener, and saying that was a shitty thing that they did (assuming they did have something to do with it).
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 1:48 PM
Post 59 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 6, 2004 at 1:42 PM"
Look, I'm not calling for the Scene to disallow all votes from out of state.  I agree that there's not really anything they can do about it.  I'm calling out Feable Wiener, and saying that was a shitty thing that they did (assuming they did have something to do with it).
I couldn't agree more. It's one thing to post a bulletin where people who support the band (or people who are too lonely to deny any friend requests from random bands they've never heard of) can know about it. It's another thing to solicit votes from hundreds of thousand of voters who haven't heard any of the bands in question.

I seriously doubt the band put Tom up to this. Like Sina said, that dude is just abusing his powers (and making FW look bad in the process).

(Edited by carligula at 1:49 pm on Sep. 6, 2004)
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Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 2:07 PM
Post 60 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 5, 2004 at 9:30 PM"
"Quote from SuperElk on Sep. 5, 2004 at 9:48 PM"
as soon as i heard about the CD release party being at rockettown my mind went straight to what the hell are all the features kids going to do without their cigarettes and booze.
Exactly. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

Alcohol: folks can do without it
Cigs: not so much
As someone who is allergic to smoke, I'm glad that I'm finally going to get to enjoy a club atmosphere without worrying about some crazy allergic reaction or the utter stankitude of my clothes when I get home. I mean, every other show is in a smokefull environment. One smokefree show is definitely not going to hurt anyone.
~Digsy S. Slattery

My New York City Exploits
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 2:10 PM
Post 61 of 89
i could be wrong

but i don't think tom was chillin with the ladies at the alaska myspace party checking out nashvillescene.com and thinking, 'man, i've gotta help my boys out.' and we haven't heard of anyone from fw defending themselves yet, so i can only assume.

i'd like to add that when i brought this issue up with said friend she asked,
"Quote"
would you do it to help out your friends? would it be fucked up if i sent out something to everyone at *** asking them to vote for my friends?
and my reply
"Quote"
no.
what i would do is encourage people to actually listen to the bands and decide for themselves.  though i love the features, i'd be pissed if they used crazy tactics to get people to overpower the voting system making them win.  they're too good of a band and to good for that shit.  
you can do what you want, but i wouldn't. i would want people to genuinely choose said band over the others because they were genuinely better, not because i'm friends with them.
i wouldn't have really had a problem with this if he would've said 'hey, check out this band and if you really like them vote for them here" etc. but that just wasn't the case. it was a 'do me a favour and vote' and 'help them out' and shit.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 2:36 PM
Post 62 of 89
I think that had the Scene really been worried about this sort of thing (or maybe they just were ignorant of the consequences) they wouldn't have done an online poll. An online poll screams "TELL EVERYONE ABOUT IT AND VOTE EN MASSE" Quite frankly, choice awards like this are a great way to get people reading a weekly or any newspaper, so the whole thing is great promotion for the paper. And for any newspaper, readership=advertisement revenue. Maybe they just don't care who votes in it. Or maybe they do. But I know that after this debacle, I would do mail-in votes only if I were running the Scene.

(Edited by deathscythe257 at 2:37 pm on Sep. 6, 2004)
you're everybody's second home
always trying to get me alone
an easy way to lose it all
always there when all else fails
over by the west side rails
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 2:52 PM
Post 63 of 89
"Quote from deathscythe257 on Sep. 6, 2004 at 2:36 PM"
IBut I know that after this debacle, I would do mail-in votes only if I were running the Scene.
And you'd probably get about 35 votes from people who aren't too lazy to address an envelope and affix a stamp.

There are so many tools at hand to have a more fair on-line system, but what it comes down to is The Scene probably wanted to make their system as easy as possible to use. I rarely vote for stuff that requires that I register-- even if they swear not to spam me. I'm lazy like that.

That's why I think the Presidential voting process should have a secure on-line process for those who wouldn't vote otherwise.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 2:55 PM
Post 64 of 89
First of all: I'm going to miss my cigarettes very much. Second of all, it just seems underhanded, but I did the same thing, in a way. I posted a bulletin asking people to vote for My Boyfriend The Chef (I think you still have a few days if you haven't already). The difference is I know it only went out to people and I know, and people who know Chris. Another difference was the fact that the second half of the "Best of Nashville" voting was all write-ins, and you had to have at least 25 out of 50+ in order to get your votes counted. If you're not from Nashville, how are you going to know about the best local scandal or best park? Those are things that are very city-oriented, whereas (according to the Scene) everyone is allowed to have an opinion on the music that comes out of Nashville, even if they haven't heard it. But even if the Features lose (which they will), I still know they're better. Finally, I try to listen to a lot of different kinds of music, but my Foreigener's Greatest Hits CD was the best birthday present ever. You people are Cold As Ice.
That's so NA.
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 3:01 PM
Post 65 of 89
"Quote from deathscythe257 on Sep. 6, 2004 at 2:36 PM"
I think that had the Scene really been worried about this sort of thing (or maybe they just were ignorant of the consequences) they wouldn't have done an online poll.  An online poll screams "TELL EVERYONE ABOUT IT AND VOTE EN MASSE"  Quite frankly, choice awards like this are a great way to get people reading a weekly or any newspaper, so the whole thing is great promotion for the paper.  And for any newspaper, readership=advertisement revenue.
I would tend to agree with you, but in this case, it seems that the Scene was taking some precautions to ensure the legitimacy of the results. First of all, in order to vote, one had to provide contact information, and not just an e-mail address, but an actual street address. Secondly, anyone who voted was required to vote in ALL categories, not just one or two. Now I know that it's still quite easy to abuse this system, but the fact that the Scene did these things tells me that it's more than just a publicity stunt.

I'll also say this: we're talking about the Nashville Scene here. This is not a national publication. Why would the Scene care at all about reaching people in Boise, Idaho? While it's true that they do have most of their content online, the print version is where they sell 237,000 column inches of advertising every week, and the print version is only available here. So basically what I'm saying is I don't think the Scene could care less about reaching people outside of middle Tennessee.
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 3:22 PM
Post 66 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 6, 2004 at 3:01 PM"
I would tend to agree with you, but in this case, it seems that the Scene was taking some precautions to ensure the legitimacy of the results. First of all, in order to vote, one had to provide contact information, and not just an e-mail address, but an actual street address. Secondly, anyone who voted was required to vote in ALL categories, not just one or two. Now I know that it's still quite easy to abuse this system, but the fact that the Scene did these things tells me that it's more than just a publicity stunt.

I'll also say this: we're talking about the Nashville Scene here. This is not a national publication. Why would the Scene care at all about reaching people in Boise, Idaho? While it's true that they do have most of their content online, the print version is where they sell 237,000 column inches of advertising every week, and the print version is only available here. So basically what I'm saying is I don't think the Scene could care less about reaching people outside of middle Tennessee.
You make some valid points, JC, but I don't think that the contact information was there as a means of making the results legitimate. I think they were there to make the votes legitimate (more on this in a minute).

You're right. They don't care about Boise, Idaho. However, a publication uses statistics to it's advantage.

Scene: Dear advertiser, The Nashville Scene had 350,000,000,000,000,000 voters in it's last Choice Awards. We will be adjusting our advertising rates thusly.

Adv.: Oh, well. I'ma be reaching a hell of a lot of people.

On the off chance that these figures would be brought into question, the scene can also accurately and definitively provide a list of all the voters in the last award, due to it's logging of addresses and names. Now, who's going to go through and make sure all of the addresses are Nashville addresses? Noone. But you show that list of names and addresses to someone and they'll be damn impressed.
you're everybody's second home
always trying to get me alone
an easy way to lose it all
always there when all else fails
over by the west side rails
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 3:39 PM
Post 67 of 89
"Quote from deathscythe257 on Sep. 6, 2004 at 3:22 PM"
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 6, 2004 at 3:01 PM"
I would tend to agree with you, but in this case, it seems that the Scene was taking some precautions to ensure the legitimacy of the results.  First of all, in order to vote, one had to provide contact information, and not just an e-mail address, but an actual street address.  Secondly, anyone who voted was required to vote in ALL categories, not just one or two.  Now I know that it's still quite easy to abuse this system, but the fact that the Scene did these things tells me that it's more than just a publicity stunt.

I'll also say this: we're talking about the Nashville Scene here.  This is not a national publication.  Why would the Scene care at all about reaching people in Boise, Idaho?  While it's true that they do have most of their content online, the print version is where they sell 237,000 column inches of advertising every week, and the print version is only available here.  So basically what I'm saying is I don't think the Scene could care less about reaching people outside of middle Tennessee.
You make some valid points, JC, but I don't think that the contact information was there as a means of making the results legitimate. I think they were there to make the votes legitimate (more on this in a minute).

You're right. They don't care about Boise, Idaho. However, a publication uses statistics to it's advantage.

Scene: Dear advertiser, The Nashville Scene had 350,000,000,000,000,000 voters in it's last Choice Awards. We will be adjusting our advertising rates thusly.

Adv.: Oh, well. I'ma be reaching a hell of a lot of people.

On the off chance that these figures would be brought into question, the scene can also accurately and definitively provide a list of all the voters in the last award, due to it's logging of addresses and names. Now, who's going to go through and make sure all of the addresses are Nashville addresses? Noone. But you show that list of names and addresses to someone and they'll be damn impressed.
Right, but what do the online numbers have to do with the print edition (which is where they sell 95% of their advertising)?

Sure, alot of votes would jack up the rates for online advertising, but it has no effect on print rates. I would imagine that the rates for print advertising are just based on circulation, which is unaffected by 350,000,000,000,000,000 online votes from all over the U.S.

I don't know. I'm tired of thinking/talking about it. The bottom line is: Feable Wiener will probably win. And in a perfect world, there would be an asterisk by that shit. But it's not, so there won't be.
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 9:41 PM
Post 68 of 89
1. The myspace email was only sent to people in TN.
2. FW had nothing to do with the email being sent out. Tom is a Fan.
Posted  Monday, September 6, 2004 at 11:40 PM
Post 69 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 6, 2004 at 3:39 PM"
Right, but what do the online numbers have to do with the print edition (which is where they sell 95% of their advertising)?
There would be no way for the advertiser or the scene to know that the votes were the result of print, online, or word-of-mouth. Most of us read the scene, but we all voted online. Also, as a free paper there is no such thing as circulation (which isn't all too important to a paper that charges anyway). Readership (a reasonable statistic of the number of people that read the Scene) is where it's at. And people who voted (assuming there weren't any mass emails about it) would be people who read the Scene, at least for statistical purposes.
you're everybody's second home
always trying to get me alone
an easy way to lose it all
always there when all else fails
over by the west side rails
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 12:21 AM
Post 70 of 89
"Quote from liz on Sep. 6, 2004 at 9:41 PM"
1. The myspace email was only sent to people in TN.
2. FW had nothing to do with the email being sent out. Tom is a Fan.
Well, don't I feel like an ass! I'm really losing my edge. Maybe it's time for me to retire. You know...hang it up. I mean, Eno's returning soon, so...perfect timing right? That's the way...this wheel...keeps working now...

And no, I don't want to read any posts saying why I don't need to stop posting, so save your keystrokes. This has been a long time coming. I've tried to make an effort to stay positive, but apparently I just can't do it.

P.S. Independent of any discussion here, I listened to the Feable Wiener album not too long ago, and I still love it. In fact, I'd say it's one of the top five albums ever released by a Nashville rock band. Buy it and love it. And prepare to be blown away Monday night.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 9:53 am on Sep. 7, 2004)
Relevant: Prince, PT Anderson, Punk, Post-Punk, Purple, Party of Five, Peter Swanson, Peter Gabriel-led Genesis, "Peter Panic", Paul's Boutique, Potential Energy, Every Features MB member but me.
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 2:38 AM
Post 71 of 89
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 7, 2004 at 12:21 AM"
Maybe it's time for me to retire.
I don't think I could handle that. I forbid it.
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 3:14 AM
Post 72 of 89
"Quote"
I've tried to make an effort to stay positive, but apparently I just can't do it.


negativity rocks . . . sad.gif









(Edited by joeywade at 2:16 am on Sep. 7, 2004)
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 10:32 AM
Post 73 of 89
"Quote from joeywade on Sep. 7, 2004 at 3:14 AM"
"Quote"
I've tried to make an effort to stay positive, but apparently I just can't do it.


negativity rocks . . . sad.gif
How about we just focus on being honest, realistic and constructive? That doesn't always mean being positive.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Post 74 of 89
According to my source at the Scene:

Average number of votes per day before Tom's message was sent out: ~100
Average number of votes per day after Tom's message was sent out: ~50

I'm not saying that makes it right, but maybe this won't be such a skewed victory. They'll probably just barely beat Will Hoge.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 12:06 PM
Post 75 of 89
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 9:32 AM"
"Quote from joeywade on Sep. 7, 2004 at 3:14 AM"
"Quote"
I've tried to make an effort to stay positive, but apparently I just can't do it.


negativity rocks . . . sad.gif
How about we just focus on being honest, realistic and constructive? That doesn't always mean being positive.
now carl, don't you think being constructive is just a tad bit over rated?
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 12:21 PM
Post 76 of 89
yeah, Carl, I have to agree, the overall race is between FW and Will Hoge, if you ask me. Josh Rouse and The Features may be dark horses.

Will Hoge. Jesus.

Somebody needs to handicap this shit and start taking bets. Sorry, I don't have the time.
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 2:33 PM
Post 77 of 89
I just noticed they have a sample mp3 for most of the bands on the ballot. Hats off to the Scene! Too bad I just vote for my friends anyway biggrin.gif
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Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 2:41 PM
Post 78 of 89
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 1:33 PM"
I just noticed they have a sample mp3 for most of the bands on the ballot. Hats off to the Scene! Too bad I just vote for my friends anyway biggrin.gif
yeah, i couldn't be bothered to listen to all of those...so for most of the other categories, i just voted at random. just for the record, i didn't vote for any bands that have the word "weiner" in them.
tell me facts tell me facts tell me facts
tell me facts throw your arms around me
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 5:54 PM
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"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 2:33 PM"
I just noticed they have a sample mp3 for most of the bands on the ballot.
you tard. i told you like weeks ago that i actually sat and listened to every single mp3 on the ballot. slowtard
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 6:01 PM
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"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 7, 2004 at 5:54 PM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 2:33 PM"
I just noticed they have a sample mp3 for most of the bands on the ballot.
you tard. i told you like weeks ago that i actually sat and listened to every single mp3 on the ballot. slowtard
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 7:16 PM
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"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 6:01 PM"
"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 7, 2004 at 5:54 PM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 2:33 PM"
I just noticed they have a sample mp3 for most of the bands on the ballot.
you tard. i told you like weeks ago that i actually sat and listened to every single mp3 on the ballot. slowtard
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
it was at the skate party

but i know i know

you had your mind on other things, like the 6th grade girls roller skating.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 7:25 PM
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"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 7, 2004 at 7:16 PM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 6:01 PM"
"Quote from sinasugarsick on Sep. 7, 2004 at 5:54 PM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 7, 2004 at 2:33 PM"
I just noticed they have a sample mp3 for most of the bands on the ballot.
you tard. i told you like weeks ago that i actually sat and listened to every single mp3 on the ballot. slowtard
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
it was at the skate party

but i know i know

you had your mind on other things, like the 6th grade girls roller skating.
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Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 2:18 PM
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Today's the last day. Vote for The Features!!!

(Edited by carligula at 2:19 pm on Sep. 8, 2004)
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 10:32 AM
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According to Myspace, Feable Weiner won.
Daigle is all we need to make the night complete
Posted  Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 10:37 AM
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"Quote from carligula on Sep. 22, 2004 at 9:32 AM"
According to Myspace, Feable Weiner won.
Well there's a shocker . . . All I have to say is that after actually getting to hear them at the release show, I'm glad they won. They could probably use the "help" more than The Features could.
Posted  Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 10:13 PM
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"Quote from joeywade on Sep. 22, 2004 at 9:37 AM"
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 22, 2004 at 9:32 AM"
According to Myspace, Feable Weiner won.
Well there's a shocker . . . All I have to say is that after actually getting to hear them at the release show, I'm glad they won. They could probably use the "help" more than The Features could.
I don't think FW needs any help right now, they're doing pretty well for themselves!
Venus Hum won the grand prize----and I feel really bad because I confused the lead singer with Lisa Loeb and was walking around telling everyone that she was there. I was actually pretty excited about it till someone told me who she was.
Feable Weiner's acceptance speech was amazing. It was probably the funniest thing I've seen in quite a while.
Posted  Wednesday, September 22, 2004 at 10:31 PM
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venus hum is the worst band in/from nashville.
oh the drudgery of being wet
Posted  Thursday, September 23, 2004 at 12:06 AM
Post 88 of 89
I'm glad that Slack won.

I would have liked the Features to win, though. However, I am glad that Feable Weiner won. They're good boys.
So I'm Hooking up with David Dewese David Dewese, double D Hooking up with DD DD, don't make me say please again oh no again oh no
Posted  Thursday, September 23, 2004 at 8:35 AM
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"Quote from stopforme on Sep. 22, 2004 at 10:31 PM"
venus hum is the worst band in/from nashville.
i cosign this statement
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good