I'm so pumped for the new shows, especially one that I won't have to drive halfway across the state to attend. In case I'm unable to go to all three, however, can any of you that have seen them at both of these venues comment on which would be the better venue: The Boro or 12th and Porter? I'm guessing that the Boro, being something of their "home stage" would be the better venue, but I'm not familiar wiith either place.

See you all at whichever one, I'm sure,

Will

I am definitely at The Boro show. If I am fortunate enough to get to stay for the show at 12th and Porter, then I am there too. I have been to The Boro, and I loved the shows. I have never been to 12th and Porter, but according to others, it is a pretty good venue as well. The Boro will be 18+ I am sure, while the 12th and Porter may be claimed to be 21+. Who knows? If I am there, I am definitely trying to get in at the 12th & P show. That's just my input.

Being that the boro is homecourt they seem to always play long/multiple sets there. They have to use their own PA there and it is smaller than 12th an P, so the sound and visibilty are usually more desirable at the Snorter, although maybe not the crowd. Everyone gets into it at the boro. Hopefully I'll make both shows, although The Boro show is on a work night.

its nice to know once i get back to school i'll have two shows right there waiting for me.......

can't wait.......

Stop posting Ghostflower, I'm trying to overtake you for third place behind Jamiecarroll and thelawnwrangler.

How "bad" is their own PA? Is the sound noticably bad?

Will

its just the boro doesnt have great acoustics.

deevol.......

3rd place? for what? do i post that much?

No, it's not *bad*, it's just not quite as good as 12th and p, if that is the comparison to be made. I really enjoy shows at the boro, They definately sound good enough.

One thing this new site offers is a ranking system on the main board page, You are currently third in total posts with 376, behind Jamiecarroll and thelawnwrangler, I am fourth. It was more of a joke than anything else.

oh how cool.......

I love that dearly departed members like brianeno2, elliott, & neuboy are still in the top 20 all-time posters, even though they retired from the board long ago.

i like the boro... even if it does smell like an armpit... i like the red rose too. peter pan polar bears are the greatest frozen drinks of our time.

i do believe i shall attend said show at the boro.

I seriously want to talk to Michael about modifying the message board software to ensure that brianeno2 always has an honorary position on the "Top 10" list.

the polar bear is the only drink i order there. i love them dearly, but i heard the people that work there hate to make them.

they'll live. i need my polar bear when i'm at the red rose.

The Polar Bear has been known to cause me to do odd things (ramble on about how i "don't have enough money", pound the counter) but it is also a source of relief (after working on a term paper for four hours in the MTSU library the night before it's due). I hope they play the Red Rose soon, and I'm planning on attending the Boro show (my first 18+ show).

i can see why you would ramble about not having enough money after buying a polar bear- they're a bit costly.

as for it being your first 18+ show, congratulations on living this long. cheers! (nice =w= by the way).

I've been lucky so far with the NextGeneration show and Dancin' (nice liam by the way)

thanks

I'm 17. Is there a good chance that I can get into the Boro show with no trouble?

hmm... i think they tend to check id at the door.

Yeah, that really matters. I've never known anyone underage who got into the Boro

i am sooooo excited about these shows. i will def. be at 12th and porter, and i would love to go to the boro, they always play great long sets there and its just a great atmosphere. ive gotta get somebody to go with me, we've already established ive gotta drive quite a bit to see those features.

very true

i'm gonna try to get in the door at 12th and porter. i've only got one more year till i'm 21 and it sucks big time. its almost there...i can see....i hate getting stopped at the door because i'm not 21.

the boro in the summer is no trouble because the giant windows are open, just climb in.

...or casually open the wall, which is in fact a garage door. act like you know what you're doing, and hopefully nobody will say anything. i've found that acting like you know what you're doing is often times more important than actually knowing.

so the boro is indeed 18+ and not 21+, correct? i'm really looking forward to my first boro show and didn't want my hopes to be dashed when they card me at the door. 18 is such a bittersweet age...

yeah, it's 18 and over.

Yeah. The Boro is definitely 18+. I am really just kind of confirming what damon has posted, since his comments seem a bit sketchy at times.

i should make you pay for the use of that word, as you no doubt got it from me. no normal person uses sketchy with such frequency.

Who said that I was a normal person?

the point is that i plan on charging you for usage of sketchy and eh from this point forward.

I refuse to pay. Hell...how could you make me pay anyway?

have you seen your cats in the last few minutes? just curious... i expect payment within the hour.

The features show at the Boro will be a good way to have fun during the first week of school. If there is some nice weather, I believe I shall be walking to the Boro to enjoy a nice summer night.

Does anyone ever sit outside at the Boro shows? I'm usually too into the show to distance myself from the band, but I'm sure you could very well on the patio.

i like walking to the boro. its the only show i never have to ask someone or beg someone to take me to.

tom...i never sit outside. i prefer to be inside where the band is. right up front. thats what i say. although in this summer heat it would be nice to sit outside.

You're not allowed to drink on the patio are you? There's my reasoning.

I know for a fact that when I went on May 2, the two guys who rode with Jenny and me went to the Red Rose for another show, and it was over before ours was (of course). So, they came back and waited outside for us. It was so funny though...Whenever The Features struck up Bumblebee they came inside. Anyway, I have seen people outside, though none were ever drinking.

sometimes you have to pay to sit outside.

I think I've seen people drinking on the patio... but maybe I'm just making that stuff up. I'm sure they'd want you to pay to sit out there, but it's probably pretty hard to enforce.

Have you ever sat in the booths at the Boro in the winter? It can get really cold. Cold air seeps through holes in the concrete block wall and settles under your table. It almost gets cold enough to make you get up and dance just to keep warm.

i'm pretty sure you're right, as they sometimes sell beer outside from a trailor of sorts. i distinctly remember a beer wagon.

ray davies- hope you're planning on going to some shows as soon as we get back to school. it seems that there are plenty to choose from.

(Edited by damon at 2:11 pm on Jul. 16, 2002)

yeah it does get cold in the winter time. i saw a spike and mallets show there back in nov and i was freezing sitting those booths.

I've snuck people in through the patio when they were carding outside. Apparently the people working the door don't care if you've had your driver's license taken away and therefore have no identification.

i love the boro; i miss the boro. i feel like ive been banned from the boro. i dont' think i'll ever be able to go back and that makes me really sad its such an awesome venue. bloody hell, memphis, TN, bloody hell!

seems like a bit of a shite situation that.

oh it is. it is indeed.

this has everything to do with ninjas and nothing to do with new shows...

i noticed while in cleveland that there is a lack of ninjas in war memorials in this country. surely they deserve to be represented. how many ninjas died to keep this country free, i ask you?

I hope to at least make the Boro show. It will probably happen.

As for ninjas, all their memorials were removed at the beginning of WW 2 and placed in holding camps. Since then, the American Ninja in War and the contributions that followed have been written out of Amherican History, despite Ninjan contributions in Viet Namn and the Gulf.