inspired by all the brit-pop fans here on the board. let the truth be told!

Believe it or not, I do stand by Oasis.

And their fans all around the world stand by me. You just have to roll with it, it's just my opinion. Some might say it's not an educated one, but Liam Gallagher is a rock n roll star.

And I love Wonderwall.

I was about to start a poll on 90's English bands. I would put Radiohead, Travis, Supergrass, Coldplay, and probably some others that aren't coming to mind right now above both Oasis and Blur, but I'd probably pick Oasis if those are my only two choices. Then again, I haven't really given Blur the propper chance.

Um...is there any doubt? Blur.

Well, let's see, I can tolerate (and really enjoy) Blur...

Oasis? Not so much.

Will

Fuckin in the Bushes rocks tho, I will say that.

didn't it make the fight scene in snatch? it was so perfect. two things i love- snatch (the movie) and oasis.

The one thing that puts Oasis over Blur is one thing, better albums. Even though Parklife is one of the best albums of the 90's and the sef titled album is very very good. Oasis has consistently put out good albums. I have even started to enjoy Be Here Now, apparently hell has frozen over.

I think Parlkife, Modern Life, and Great Escape are all great albums (British Life Trilogy, right?), and those before and after aren't too shabby either (pronounced eye-tha). I've never been much of an Oasis fan, the best I've heard of theirs has come from b-sides, forgive me for not knowing song titles.

I like the fact that Oasis put awesome songs as B-Sides and make their singles worth buying but songs like The Masterplan and Acquiesce and Round Are Way...they're so great that they should have been heard by a wider audience. "Morning Glory" could have actually been a stellar double album with all the B-sides produced at that time. "Morning Glory" B-sides are the best Oasis B-sides in my opinion.

Although I do fancy Oasis' Street Fighting Man.

holy shit... did i get through to you?

contrary to popular belief, be here now is a good album. so what if noel was coked out of his mind? the songs get better the more you listen to them.

I agree. That is the album that actually turned me on to Oasis. I owned Morning Glory and I liked it and it was slowly climbing it's way to becoming the greatest/most influential album that I own but Be Here Now was what I listened to 24/7. Well more like anytime I put a CD in.

I still remember it debuting at #2 right under Puff Daddy.

i too was really turned on to oasis by be here now. i had never really listened to them much other than the occasional morning glory. i might add that radio in wv consists of gay, gayer, and really gay music (no offense to anyone that might be gay- like eminem, i do not use the word gay in reference to sexuality, but rather to suggest that something sucks...). by a stroke of luck, i heard some of be here now while i was hanging out with a friend. after that it pretty much snowballed.

because of my location in a horrible region for music, it took me a while to catch on to blur as well. if i'd gone by song 2, i would have figured them for idiots. luckily i searched a little deeper than that.

I first saw Oasis on Christmas eve 95 during Casey Kasem's VH1 countdown. He introduced Oasis by saying that they beat each other up on stage. That really intrigued me so I watched the video, "Wonderwall", and it changed me.

And I like Song 2.

i like song 2 as well, but it's a shame that it is the only blur song that most people know. i don't think that it really represents them all that well. also, i wasn't too impressed the first time i saw damon bouncing off of walls and shouting woooooooohoooooooo... i figured him for an idiot (which might not be too far off these days, as he seems to be a david beckham wannabe, sin/posh spice and superior football skill).

i just thought i'd mention that noel briefly brought back his acoustic set this week in florida. apparently liam's voice was struggling after the 4th or 5th song, so noel stepped in, performing part of the usual set and then a seven song solo set (which included b-sides such as half the world away and talk tonight)- just him and an acoustic guitar. i would have paid good money to see this.

to keep somewhat with the topic, i don't think blur could pull this off. graham is cool, but i don't see him taking over.

Dude, Graham could totally pull it off. He's put out 2 solo albums. This material might clear out the audience, but... In the first place, Damon doesn't "lose his voice" after 4 or 5 songs. Interestingly, I have an Oasis bootleg of a show in Boston in 1996 where the same thing happened - Liam loses his voice and Noel sings the second half of the show.

I would have paid a kidney and a nostril to see that. The acoustic set is something that I wish Oasis would adopt for every single show like they did back in the Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory tour days.

yeah, i know of graham's solo stuff, but i still doubt that he could pull it off as well as noel. i don't mean to take away any of his thunder. he's dead cool, and a great guitarist.

for the record, this is the first time that liam's voice has gone out in at least two years. with the way he stands (singing up into the mic, with his neck stretched out) when he sings and the amount he smokes, it's a miracle that he can go night after night.

(Edited by damon at 8:52 am on Aug. 4, 2002)

Cover of the REM song, perchance?

One of my absolute favorite REM songs.

Will

No, it's a different song. The REM song is called 'Half a World Away' (and it is very good).

I dont think that Graham is a bad songwriter. One of my favorite songs off Blur's self titled album is "You're so Great", a wonderful low-fi ditty. I would also like to say that I believe it was graham who pushed Blur away from being overtly British (not exactly a bad thing), and into more indie rock territory. Blur's self titled album is very low-fi and artsy, it's my personal favorite followed by "Parklife" and "13".

I was wondering if anyone has purchased the new Oasis album. I know that Damon downloaded an early version of the entire album, but I wanted to know if anyone had purchased it.

I did break down and buy 'Heathen Chemistry.' I have listened to it twice, and (I'm sorry) but I am quite underwhelmed. This album was so hyped up as "the return of Oasis", but I'm just not hearing it. 'Stop Crying Your Heart Out' is about the only song that I really like. I will keep listening to it (maybe it will grow on me?), but I'm afraid that this one is headed the way of 'SotSoG' (collecting dust on my shelf). I think Spin said it best: [This record] is a tinny echo of the keen song construction that defined peak-period Oasis albums like 1995's (What's the Story) Morning Glory?.

i know what you mean. however, i'm too obsessed with the band in general to put it away. ironically, i didn't like stop crying your heart out at first because it sounded too cliched. too much like slide away and don't go away combined. now i love it, after finding out that it was played on the bbc following england's world cup loss to brazil. i guess it had more meaning after that.

i think that i get more excited about the b sides these days.

(Edited by damon at 12:31 pm on Aug. 5, 2002)

8 and 8! wow! its neck and neck!! this is INCREDIBLE!

I agree. I really think "The Hindu Times" is great. I just wish that Noel would run the band like the dictatorship that is was though. I would prefer him write the lyrics to all the songs and the melody and then let the talented musicians fill in and add onto that. I really like "A Quick Peep" and "Hung In A Bad Place" but they don't compare to "She Is Love" "SCYHO" "The Hindu Times" or "Force of Nature." I think the album is a very solid one, but the solid unit is nowhere near the level of Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe.

And I still stand by SOTSOG being brilliant and the second best Oasis CD right after Morning Glory. I really really enjoy SOTSOG and it didn't leave my CD player for a year. I know that Oasis has so much more potential than Heathen Chemistry with this new line up (their first recording as a band, the My Generation cover, blew me away) and I hope they show it soon.

But Heathen Chemistry is still grade A top notch.

i agree. my generation was a great cover. liam's voice was at peak form. have you seen the video of them performing it on bbc?

as for heathen chemistry, i would have to agree that it is a solid album. i'm not too keen of some of the lyrics (better man, and that we the people at the beginning of little by little), but for the most part i love it. i'm not about to compare it to morning glory, but i guess that's what separates me from people who stopped caring after be here now. she is love, force of nature, hung in a bad place, songbird, stop srying your heart out, the hindu times, and songbird are all ace in my book. i would have liked to see thank you for the good times or shout it out loud make the album.

(Edited by damon at 12:28 am on Aug. 6, 2002)

I really do think that Oasis should release "force of nature" as a single sometime in the near future. It's a damn catchy song. I remember the first time Damon played it for me. I automatically thought, "Man, that's a fucking hit. I wish they would release that in America". However, my favorite song on Heathen Chemistry is "Songbird". I was very surprised that Liam wrote that (especially, after "little James"). It's almost reminds me of "ooh la la" by the faces for some reason. Maybe because it's almost celtic in an way....