Me and my buds really have an urge to go dancing and we are not about to pay 12 bucks to go dance to gospel music with those little punks at Rocket town. I've searched high and low for an under 21 dance club but I've had no luck. So do any of ya'll know of some with a teen night or some that are fairly easy to sneak into?

So, according to your profile, you're 14, right? That could be tough. You're probably lucky to have Rcktwn as it is. Shouldn't you be having slumber parties and stuff at your age?

If I'm not mistaken, the Outer Limit has a teen night on Sunday nights. But...
a)who wants to dance on a Sunday night?
b)the Outer Limit is pretty dangerous

The Mix Factory used to have a teen night. In its current incarnation, I'm not sure if it does or not.

RKTWN might not be all that bad, actually. I bet that if you can put up with the crowd there, the DJs are actually pretty good. Sure, you can't drink or smoke there, but I don't think you're really interested in that anyway.

What did I do when I was 14? Well, I went to a lot of movies, I went to the mall, I went camping a lot, and I played basketball. I was just starting to get into trouble then. At that time I think I listened exclusively to R.E.M. and grunge - Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Mudhoney, Dinosaur Jr - anything really distorted and pissed off/confused. I was in love with a sophomore named Bianca Hooper, who didn't even know that I existed. I drank a lot of Cherry Coke.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 11:47 pm on Mar. 21, 2003)

Uh-oh. I think this is going to start a long list of "when I was 14" responses.

Rachel, The Outer Limit is the only place I know of that has a teen night, and that place can be a bit scary. However, you might want to call some clubs and ask them if they, too, have a teen night. If not, why don't you and your friends organize some dance parties at someone's house? You could even have someone's rich Brentwood parents hire a d.j. and have them play what you want. That's what we always did, and, yeah, it sucked, but - believe me - so does The Outer Limit (and most dance clubs!) Or as a better alternative and more fun, why don't you all go take swing dancing lessons together and actually learn a real dance rather than just the ol' bump and grind? Swing dancing is much more fun and much sexier.

When I was 14, I was not super popular. I spent a lot of time on schoolwork and cheerleading and practiced the piano religiously. I didn't get into a lot of trouble and listened to crap music. I always had some sort of unrequited crush. I drank mostly water and ate a lot of candy.

Rachel, I'm sure your life is much more exciting than mine was.

I got my first job at 14, mostly as a social outlet. I had no life then. I listened to no music. I was a brat. I had few friends. I ate and drank everything in sight, and I weighed more than I do now.

In the words of Matt Pelham, "We played at a place called the Outer Limit, and all I can say is don't go there."

It's nice to know that most of us weren't super-cool-indie-rockers from the moment we were birthed like a certain Ray Davies

When I was 14, I was just coming off of an 8 year bowl-cut hair style, I wore exclusively Hawaiian shirts, really really liked matchbox 20, and was also a tad chunkier. Yes, I did indeed suck. But all was not lost since I had the love of Oasis back then as well.

I was 14 when I took my first drink, then two weeks later I took so many drinks I puked all over my friend's basement and said I would never do that again. Well, I've gotten better with the puking part. The Opryland Season Pass was key at that age for me. I still went to the Brentwood Skate Center a lot then too, who knows what that place is like these days.

When I was 14 I had my first sexual experience::

When I was walking down the hall, a young lady that was older than me pinched my butt as we passed each other.
And here's the best part- when I turned around to see who did it, she smiled. It just sent me through the ceiling.

Not too bad for somebody that needs batteries in his bum before he can move his mouth.

Do they have to be rich brentwood parents, or can they just be rich parents in general?

NO!!! They must be rich Brentwood parents!

When I was 14, I wore white t-shirts with sweater vests over them whenever I could. I liked bad, bad music...as in the stuff that was on the radio. I volunteered at the YMCA where I hung out with Gerad (a guy about 5 years older than me), who also worked there. But, he was cool, b/c he was getting paid. I was addicted to The X-Files; there wasn't a show that I would miss. And, I was making straight A's in school...something that I wish I was doing now.

When I was 14, I started dating my new husband! Is that scary or what? Otherwise, I died my hair pink with Koolaid & it lasted 6 months. I quit Girl Scouts when it became apparent that we weren't going to build bridges or go rappelling like the Boy Scouts. I got a sucky job paying $4.25/ hr working concessions at the movies and, much like jamie, spent most of my time there drinking Cherry Coke. I stopped smoking, which wasn't hard since I had only had my first cigarette 3 months prior. We were lucky enough to have an all-ages "alternative" club in my town that my friends & I went to. But all the regulars there thought we were losers because it wasn't cool to dance & we did. I think it also wasn't cool to be happy. Oh well.

i don't know about any "dance" clubs, but another all ages club is the muse on 4th ave....it's not necessarily the safest place being surrounded by bums, druggies, and porn shops, but i've never really felt nervous the times that i've been there. every show is all ages and usually between 5 and 10 dollars....just another option to consider, rach..

yeah bands from our school play at the muse pretty often. thanks yall for suggestions even though it looks like the only bootyshakin i'll be doin for a while is at home. but in two more months ill be able to add a "When I was fourteen.." post!

I guess my musical odyssey started when I was 14. I loved Aerosmith and that song, "Cryin'." My best friend at the time got his girlfriend pregnant, and those circumstances had us really enjoying, "All That She Wants" by Ace of Base.




She's the hunter, you're the fox.

Everyone knows that "The Sign" is the superior AOB tune. I mean, the girls of "Full House" even covered it...

Perhaps, but the sentimental stuff described above would make me vote for "All That She Wants" all the way, baby.

You don't even want to start talking about Ace of Base around me! I listened to that album ("The Sign") continuously while I worked on model cars in my kitchen. My brother was so sick of that album. I was just telling my roommate that if they were at Riverstages, I would definitely be there.

I remember that I almost bought their second album "the Bridge" based solely on the genius of their single "It's a Beautiful Life." I kinda wish I had bought that album just so I could sell it now and get $3. *sigh*

I have that album! Someone bought it for me, based on the knowledge that I loved them in 6th grade.

Oh, and nice avatar. "Go shawty. It's your birthday. We're gonna party like it's your birthday. We're gonna sip bicardi like it's your birthday. You know we don't give a fuck. It's not your birthday." Genius.

My friends and I get way, way too much entertainment out of the beginning of that video. 50 Cent kinda looks like a Ninja Turtle....

...the definition of too much being when the first thing one does when entering the room is play the "in da club" video on the computer and leave it paused at the spot where digsy's avatar is and then continue on with planned activities...sometimes nothing's funnier than carrying on a serious conversation and catching that upside-down muscle mass from the corner of your eye.

and when i was 14 i listened to really shitty music (back then not just for humor) and chilled with all my ghetto friends. i tried to be cool like all of them were, but when your picture and name are posted in the hallway on a poster that says "math star of the month," it just doesn't work out.

When i was 14
by sina sugarsick

when i was 14, it was pavement and prince with a some incesticides, nevermind and pretty on the inside. i was the only person my age who dressed "weird." (which later became "alternative.") i thought i was a badass and that i was way cooler than anyone else. i had "boyfriends" but nothing physical and i treated them all bad cause kurtC was the only boy for me.

Sexual talk...excellent!
H or B?

(Edited by richarddawson at 9:02 pm on Mar. 24, 2003)

I am a girl. This made this experience all the more sexual, yet all the more confusing.

That was the second CD that I ever bought. It was when I was in seventh grade at the ripe ole age of 12. Two months later, I traded it to Jamie Caskey for the first Weezer album in what came to be known as "the steal of the century."

when i was 14, i was enthralled with joy division. "unknown pleasures" was in constant rotation. i also listened to nada surf's "high/low". i loved that album.....i remember listening to "second edition" by public image limited quite a bit......i was just getting into prog......i loved all things brit-pop (the self-titled blur album being a rather large favorite of mine along with the first elastica album).......sweet memories......

(Edited by ray davies at 11:29 am on Mar. 25, 2003)

Which is the first Elastica album? I remember my brother buying it b/c he thought Justine Freshmann was cute, and him playing it for me. I also remember hearing one of the songs on there and saying to him, "Doesn't this sound like that one Wire song?" and he was like, "Yup, Wire thought so too, and sued them for it." I think the Wire song was "Three Girl Rhumba."

it's their self titled debut.....

when i was 14....hmmmm
i liked the beatles, green day, duran duran, spandau ballet, the police, u2, sting, 80s compilations, yes, and ween. i also had the blur "girls & boys" single on cassette(i found it at wal-mart?!?), so that was the beginning of my love for them. i didn't find parklife until i was 15.

When I was 14, I was commuting to Father Ryan HS from Mt. Juliet. I listened primarily to Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, Faith No More, and Suicidal Tendencies. That was shortly before grunge broke and all these bands were replaced with Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and Alice in Chains. I started what was to be a 5-year summer job at the Cedar Creek Yacht Club working as a dishwasher.

Girls still didn't talk to me at this point.

When I was 14, I had just moved to Tennessee from Arkansas. The only notable music I liked was R.E.M. and the Violent Femmes. I was in band and had an unhealthy love of quiz bowl and was very sad that they did not have a team at my new school. I may have been considered a nerd.

Boys still don't talk to me.

(Edited by iwantelvis at 3:52 pm on Mar. 25, 2003)

So would I. Definitely.

Where in Arkansas did you move from IWE? I lived in the Rock for three loooooooong years.

I was a gooch when I was 14. I wore black (very tasteful goth-ness, mind you, no black crushed velvet) listened to The Smiths and Bauhaus. Read, wrote, and looked wan. I was still cooler than anyone at my school.

Some things never change ; )

Just hearing the words Ace of Base makes me cringe... It takes me back to the 7th grade when we had to sing that in Music

I lived in North Little Rock for three loooooong months.

You had to sing it in music? We always sang pieces by Mozart and other composers, and most of our songs weren't even in English (which was fine by me). In fact, the only songs in English that I do remember singing are, "Give My Regards to Broadway" and "The Water Is Wide". Other than that, I don't remember any. But, of course, that was High School Advanced Ensemble, and my middle school was too crappy to have a real singing course.

Oh gosh we had to sing like boys to men "when water runs dry." Lean on Me, Meet in the Middle, Crocidile Rock by Elton John!!!, Cotton Eye Joe, We Didn't start the Fire.. stuff like that... Just to name a few

Huh...I would have eaten that up in 5-6th grade since I actually enjoyed all of those songs at the time (especially "Cotton Eyed Joe").

in the 8th grade i bought the cd single for "all that she wants(is another baby)". in retrospect, ace of base were really trying to be a modern abba. i remember a church group discussion about the video for "the sign". everyone was debating if it was evil or not because of it's use of an ankh. baptists are pretty silly.

Hmm...sounds like an experience similar to the one that I had in Rucker-Stewart Middle School's music department in Gallatin. Ms. Stewart was an interesting (bitchy) lady...red jumpsuits and gold high heels? Now, thats fashion!

It's about time someine gave the redjumpsuit and gold high heels ensemble the credit it deserves. Helen Gurley Brown thanks you.

Yeah, I also had that single. I don't know why I'm even admitting this, but one of my friends and I were almost in the fifth grade talent show singing "The Sign". We didn't think the subject matter of "All That She Wants (is another baby)" would be appropriate.

That lady was crazy! She locked me in a closet once because I was talking to the person next to me instead of singing. I had to stay in there for about an hour. It was quite frightening; very dark .

Hey, didn't people call Ms. Stewart "Snake Eyes" or something to that effect?

We sang that too. It would have been fun to sing Ace of Base, though. I've never heard reports of their music being evil. My church group anti-rock discussions were always accompanied by fun videos in which songs were played backwards to reveal satanic messages. Now that's some Christians with too much time on their hands.

I was too busy advocating rock music in my church circle when Ace of Base came around. Most of the stuff we did was more like Token's, and we condemned all those 80s hard rock bands. My favorite example was condemning INXS for "Devil Inside."

That reminds me. In a stack of books that I'm going to take to the Used Book Seller within coming weeks, I've got one given to me by my parents titled, The Legacy of John Lennon, featuring all kinds of reactionary propoganda against John Lennon. It might be good for a laugh. When they showed it to me, I glanced at it briefly and threw it under a stack of good books.

(clap-clap)
sorry... the power of Styxx besieged me

(Edited by Peace Frog at 8:23 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

This reminds me of when my parents came to visit and subtlely left behind a pamphlet on "The Dangers of Smoking." I did at least read it, but I can't say it had much of an effect, except a comic one.

Did ya'll ever see "Hell's Bells?" It was some sort of religious anti-heavy metal propaganda video. We had to watch it in 7th grade. It would give examples of how like, every metal band ever was Satanic. I'd love to see it again.

On another note - do you want to hear something really embarassing? In 11th grade, my school had a lip-synch contest. My friend Clay Kelton and I entered, and did Bush's "Comedown." I was Gavin Rossdale. This rendition was complete with mock-playing of not-plugged-in electric guitar and bass. That is LITERALLY (and I mean LITERALLY) one of the most embarassing things I've ever been involved in in my life. Everyone else that entered were doing these joke songs and goofing off, while we were dead serious. But you have to understand, I had just gotten an electric guitar, and it was a really popular song at the time...

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 2:32 am on Mar. 27, 2003)

no... snake eyes was Mrs. Smith

Mrs. Stewart was just a bitch.

This is scary that other people on this board had her class as well.

man, that is the most hilarious thing i have read in a while. i am completely laughing with you though, jc...it takes guts to admit something like that. since guts i lack, i shall remain silent...

Geez...we just bashed queers and sodomy in the chuches I go to. Although I remember one of my high school friends saying that an Oasis quote was used during one of their youth group discussions about rock and religion...hrmph...

And onto the talent show thing, I did a lot of embarrassing stuff in front of my school. Portraying Josh Hartnett, dressing up like a hillbilly (on multiple occassions), wearing one of those red-cover-all-sleep thingies, dancing to TWO Destiny's Child songs, and being involved in Pep Band. Of course covering "Fell in Love With A Girl" at my senior talent show may have won me some cool points to outweigh the non-cool points.

Hahaha! Who was the friend?

That's exactly what it was that I was referring to. It's even funnier that you saw it in 7th grade, and I saw it probably around '96. We were behind the times.

That sounds like the video my parents made me and my big bro watch after my mom read the lyrics of his Metallica tapes. That was when my brother finally got the guts to tell my folks that he didn't believe in God. I'm still looking for the right opportunity.

When one of my friends' parents heard a Nine Inch Nails song, they forced my friend (a NIN fan) to sit down and read the lyrics of Nine Inch Nail's songs as if she was saying them to Jesus and her grandmother. That always made me chuckle.

Damn, another Gallatian!?!? That makes...(counting fingers)...about eight of us. Man, we could have our own team in the basketball tourney. With the inside presence of PFMO and myself, the speed of Brother Love, the perimeter shooting of Ray Davies, and the superpowers of the rest of the Gallatin people...we could form Captain Planet,er...or at least be a decent basketball team.

correction, she had to read it to jesus and her dead grandmother. and i believe her mother had placed two empty chairs in front of her to represent the presence of the two. i've always had a special admiration for this friend, knowing she successfully completed this task and got to keep her cd (though i'm not so sure how much of a reward that really was).

I thought it was a dead grandmother, but I didn't want to be fronting or spreading them rumours.

My mom made me return Dookie when I was in 5th grade because of the lyrics. Hmm...

All this censorship/active parenting scares me. My parents didn't give a damn. My mom likes Guns and Roses by the way.

My God, that just made me feel really old... I remember putting Longview into rotation at my college radio station...

To think a 5th grade Digsy was out running around with a school uniform, curly locks and a sucker at that time in my life is rather earth shattering.

(Edited by Peace Frog at 10:13 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

Was he Little Lord Fauntleroy?

i love my mom. her main musical idols include tina turner, waylon jennings, rod stewart, and, above all, meatloaf. she was 2nd row when meatloaf came to nashville many years ago. she held a giant sign that read "i've always loved you, meat!" i also keep a giant pink poster of waylon jennings on my wall so that she will love me more... no wonder i turned out so lame.

Hahaha, you're old.

But I'm still punk... I have a black lawnmower... with a sweet electra glide shifter and mag wheels...

Waylon Jennings is super cool!!! I have loved Waylon Jennings since my pre-kindergarten days when I watched my Dukes of Hazzard tapes non-stop and sang along with him about those "good ole boys...just breakin the law every way they know how." Not to mention he had an excellent logo and snorted coke. I have a Waylon Jennings pin in my truck that rides above me on my sunvisor at all times.

Now this makes my parents seem tame, almost.

Gee, I hope Rachel is still reading this post about our club ideas for her. Instead, she is probably enjoying some newfound appreciation and respect for her life. At least, at 14, she has The Features and is probably allowed to listen to their lyrics barring any mention of dead grandmothers.

Hmmm...I wonder what we'd find if we played Features songs backwards.

How MANY tapes/CDs did I get taken up by my parents? Too many to count. For sure, basically any rap album I ever owned, but I also know for certain that Nevermind got taken, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magic, all of my GnR albums, The Downward Spiral, that first Alice in Chains album, that first STP album, and oh, so many more. My parents would totally go through my room and look for contraband.

I hated my parents so much for doing that back then, but now, my parents and I can just laugh about it. I've re-bought most of those albums, and can listen to most of it with them, and they don't care. They'll admit that they were over-protective. I was the first-born, they were new parents, and they were scared, so they took a "better safe than sorry" approach. What's more important is that they taught me how to think objectively about the world and all of the art that's in it, so I can decide for myself whether Axl speaks the truth.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 4:29 am on Mar. 27, 2003)

Everyone hated me in 5th grade, mainly because I wouldn't let anyone else have my suckers. No one comes in between me and my sweets.

I've done it! Buffalo Head played backwards has a secret message and I am not lying! I did it on my computer before I ever joined the board (hence, why I have yet to mention it until this moment). It's very cool.

The word on the monkeybars was the cooties... just telling ya what I heard...

You're such a redneck.

All I can say after re-listening to reverse Buffalo Head is "oh, fuck it" and/or "out of our head." Try it and you'll know what I mean...

(Edited by richarddawson at 10:39 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

That's exactly what I went through. My parents were especially tough on my brother and sister. They've loosened up the older they've gotten.

I can't believe I even went and checked this out... but he's right... "oh fuck it" is very audible... I doubt it was on purpose but very entertaining none the less...

So...the Features aren't the nice cuddly band that the Bible Belt and everyone else believed them to be. Instead they are preaching satanic messages to our troubled youth. By telling listeners "oh fuck it", they are implying that people should stop attending churches of our God, and say "oh fuck it" to anything else that they hold dear. All that the Features preach is the gospel of Sloth and Sin. And you thought all of the songs were about twin babies...

(Edited by richarddawson at 11:08 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

Yep, still hanging in here. I'm actually kind of excited to reflect on how much I have changed in 5 years or so. I mean, there won't be too much since I am not very drastic with anything I'm doing/wearing/listening to. But we'll see. I wonder if I'll still be on here in 5 years..

Oh by the way, I decided to give Rocketown a shot. I checked it out and its ages 15 to 20 so there won't be little kids. Actually, its a little ironic since I was worried about little kids and I'm not even supposed to be allowed in. Hmph, oh well.

I've long thought that Parrish is an evil genius. I'm sure that this message is all part of some plan he has to take over the world. I think it could work too. He's already got Ray Davies recruiting a "Features Army."

(Edited by Brother Love at 11:22 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

The boy scouts was just an early training ground for this mastermind of evil. Fuck church, seig hail Parrish!

(Edited by richarddawson at 11:27 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

Give praise to the Furher!!

Seig Hail, Parrish!

A certain fluffy blonde haired girl that you know rather well. Of course, if you were to question her about it, she would probably act like she has no memory of it.

That list proves a great difference in our parents' tastes....

1. Nevermind I played 'Teen Spirit' for my dad off of a radio tape I had made and he went out and bought the cd. this is one of my most vivid musical memories, hanging out with dad and little sister next to my bunk bed and listening to this *crazy* new music.

2. Blood Sugar Sex Magik My dad gave me this because he was really only a fan of 'give it away' and didn't really like the rest of the album. yes, I get the irony.

3. GNR My dad would play appetite for destruction when showing off his stereo to friends, usually paradise city. I was afraid I would get in trouble for looking at the liner notes one time.

4. AIC Dirt we both bought this without knowing the other one had it (not the first time, not the last)

5. the first STP I never bought it, because dad always had it for me to borrow.

I was never in similar situations with mom and her Basia albums though.

and now the kicker....
6. My parents would totally go through my room and look for contraband. I would totally go through my parents room and find contraband.

(Edited by mike_D at 12:06 am on Mar. 27, 2003)

Hahaha, old lady Purcell. So young, yet so old at heart.

Seig hail Parrish!

HA. yep.

Old lady Purcell and Sexy Sadie singing
Ace of Bass's "The Sign" = Bizarro World

Seig Hail Parrish!

I did get my love of "Love Shack" from my mother, as well as an okay place in my heart for Huey Lewis & The News and solo Bobby Brown. I even wear her old Huey Lewis T-shirt sometimes...or actually it might have been mine from my fat kid stage...I'm not sure. I also gained a love of Boston from my parents as well. My mom has always been receptive to current music (she loves The Dandy Warhols...irony). My dad on the other hand...eh...let's just say that they are going to see the Gatlins or the Gaithers or one of those groups tomorrow night....

it's a little off topic, but there was this video i watched in high school called "the gods are waking". it had a theme song for every greek god. apollo's theme went something like, "apollo, your rays are shining down upon us". i can't ever recall laughing so hard in my entire life. i've pondered breaking into my high school's av room to get a copy. maybe i could pay off a student to do it.

Sounds entertaining. It'd be the best if it was School House Rocks-type animation with it.

OMG, how did you find that? Parrish probably hates the gays, too. His "nice guy who's handy, give us a hug" exterior doesn't fool me. I heard that he slices up mice brains on Graybeard. Or was that someone else....

For the record, I can attest that it's a real list of supposed do-gooders, because 1994's Bill Siesser is a buddy of mine, and has been to some Features shows. The plot thickens- there should be a poll of how many Features fans were involved with scouting.

(Edited by Lauren at 8:14 pm on Mar. 27, 2003)

I was a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout. Cub Scouts was fun, if for no other reason than the pinewood derby every year. Boy Scouts was fun, if for no other reason than the awesome hiking/camping trips. My life got too busy, though, and I only made it to 2nd Class.

Ghostflower was an Eagle Scout.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 4:03 am on Mar. 28, 2003)

I bucked the Boy Scouts trend and instead was involved with a league of renegade militiamen, all at the tender age of 6. When I was 7...

I was a Cub Scout for a couple years as a kid, but it really sucked so I dropped out. The most exciting thing we ever did was make those little cars out of blocks of wood. One time we made Christmas ornaments out of dog biscuits and one of my friends dared me to eat one of them. I did it, and my den mother got really mad at me.

(Edited by Brother Love at 11:35 pm on Mar. 27, 2003)

Ha ha...den mother...ha ha ha. I forgot about den mothers.

pinewood derby was the best, but there were also two other races, the names I cannot remember. One was a rubber band and propeller flying thing that hung from a string and the other was a miniature sailboat race in which the boats were powered by the wind of the scout's lungs. I never got to do the boat race, they said it was too messy (water=messy?) but the "flying" machines were awesome. I won because my dad convinced me to color mine with hi-lighters instead of paints, he was cheap, but it turned out to be brilliant because my craft was so much lighter than anyone else's.

i was 4th in the pinewood derby. i went to day camp and they wouldn't let me eat my chewy sweet tarts before lunch, so i bailed.

wow, that's amazing. i love your parents.

Ah, chewy sweet tarts. I used to eat those things all the time. The ones you can buy now are not the same.

you AWOL bastard. we've been looking for you for years...

Man when I was like I really didn't care about the Scouts thing, because I was too hung up on 4-H hell yeah the bake-offs those damn speechs!

It was called the Raingutter Regata and it ruled because it favored those scouts with large lung capacities (AKA the fats kids AKA me). Oh man, I just realized the big can of worms I opened with that last line.

Each year, the Pack rotated between that, the Pinewood Derby, and the flying one (whose name escapes me). Oh and that pack was Pack 84 out of Holy Rosary Academy in Donelson, Tennessee for those who care.

Bill Siesser is also a fellow mouse killer. How do you like them apples?

Instead of being cool and playing sports or being in a band, I was in the Boy Scouts. Highlights included canoeing, a yearly week-long summer camp, spelunking (that's caving to you and me, Russ), camping, earning my mouse-brain-slicing merit badge, looking at nudie magazines that fellow scouts had swiped from their dads' closets, smoking cigarrettes, trying to smoke grass (not weed-- grass) rolled up in notebook paper, and fist-fighting.

And for what it's worth, I made it to Eagle Scout just before I reached the cut-off age of 18. I never participated in Order of the Arrow like Parrish, though. It creeped me out too much. It sounded like a cult.

(Edited by carligula at 10:09 am on Mar. 28, 2003)

Might that be the Whirlybird? Man, I wish we had nudie magazines & spelunking in Cadet Girl Scouts. Bill Siesser gets around. I wonder what secrets he shares with Parrish?

I've got a few first place Pinewood Derby trophies myself.

And getting back on topic, there's an all ages show tonight at the End starting at 7PM, Rachel. It's a pretty old band called Joy Electric. I haven't heard them in a while, but they're good techno\synth music. I'll be there for old time's sake at least. I'm not sure about this Luna Halo, though.

Man, Joy Electric and Ronnie Martin just plain scare me. I used to like them, but I don't know. Jason Martin and Starflyer is still pretty cool though.