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TOPIC: Favorite poet?
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 3:59 PM
Post 1 of 85
Mine is Billy Collins, the current national poet laureate. I curse Books-A-Million every time I go there since they don't have a copy of his newest book, or any of his books for that matter. They always tell me they're willing to order them for me, but damn it he's by name the nation's best poet and they have 8 copies of Jewel. A sample poem..

The Best Cigarette


There are many that I miss
having sent my last one out a car window
sparking along the road one night, years ago.

The heralded one, of course:
after sex, the two glowing tips
now the lights of a single ship;
at the end of a long dinner
with more wine to come
and a smoke ring coasting into the chandelier;
or on a white beach,
holding one with fingers still wet from a swim.

How bittersweet these punctuations
of flame and gesture;
but the best were on those mornings
when I would have a little something going
in the typewriter,
the sun bright in the windows,
maybe some Berlioz on in the background.
I would go into the kitchen for coffee
and on the way back to the page,
curled in its roller,
I would light one up and feel
its dry rush mix with the dark taste of coffee.

Then I would be my own locomotive,
trailing behind me as I returned to work
little puffs of smoke,
indicators of progress,
signs of industry and thought,
the signal that told the nineteenth century
it was moving forward.
That was the best cigarette,
when I would steam into the study
full of vaporous hope
and stand there,
the big headlamp of my face
pointed down at all the words in parallel lines.
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 4:08 PM
Post 2 of 85
ian curtis...he could technically be a poet. i'm not patient enough to read poetry. leonard cohen had the right idea.
Nothin' gets in my way....Not even locked doors!
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 6:13 PM
Post 3 of 85
I'm going to be the stereotypical teenager again and say E. E. Cummings. I'm rather attached.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 6:37 PM
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I'm not a big fan of reading much, but on the Sifl and Olly site, there's a poet page and it has some pretty good peoms. http://www.sifl-n-olly.com/poetry/index.html
So I'm Hooking up with David Dewese David Dewese, double D Hooking up with DD DD, don't make me say please again oh no again oh no
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 7:43 PM
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Sweet jesus, I'm almost sorry I asked.
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 7:48 PM
Post 6 of 85
If that was directed towards me, I'm sorry. I'm easily entertained and don't know real works of literature.
So I'm Hooking up with David Dewese David Dewese, double D Hooking up with DD DD, don't make me say please again oh no again oh no
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 7:49 PM
Post 7 of 85
Sifl and Olly? You were kidding, right?
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 7:55 PM
Post 8 of 85
I mean, the fact is, poems/literature can be funny and have meaning. You're missing out.

Read this, and tell me its not at least humorous.

The History Teacher
Trying to protect his students' innocence
he told them the Ice Age was really just
the Chilly Age, a period of a million years
when everyone had to wear sweaters.

And the Stone Age became the Gravel Age,
named after the long driveways of the time.

The Spanish Inquisition was nothing more
than an outbreak of questions such as
'How far is it from here to Madrid?'
'What do you call the matador's hat?'

The War of the Roses took place in a garden,
and the Enola Gay dropped one tiny atom
on Japan.

The children would leave his classroom
for the playground to torment the weak
and the smart,
mussing up their hair and breaking their glasses,

while he gathered up his notes and walked home
past flower beds and white picket fences, wondering if they would believe that soldiers
in the Boer War told long, rambling stories
designed to make the enemy nod off
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 8:05 PM
Post 9 of 85
I liked that. Who's it by?
So I'm Hooking up with David Dewese David Dewese, double D Hooking up with DD DD, don't make me say please again oh no again oh no
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 8:07 PM
Post 10 of 85
Billy Collins
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 9:05 PM
Post 11 of 85
allen ginsberg
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 9:10 PM
Post 12 of 85
hey, don't knock the sifl and olly. thats quality stuff. (no, im not being sarcastic)
"negro frijoles!!" ~m.m.
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 9:12 PM
Post 13 of 85
"Quote from mindylieu on Jun. 10, 2002 at 9:10 PM"
hey, don't knock the sifl and olly.  thats quality stuff. (no, im not being sarcastic)

Thank you. I couldn't find the words to say it, or I already would have. I love them. Do you know who really writes that? Is there a book of anything? That would be great. It'd be the only book I've bought in about 5 years.
So I'm Hooking up with David Dewese David Dewese, double D Hooking up with DD DD, don't make me say please again oh no again oh no
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 10:32 PM
Post 14 of 85
i really like philip larkin and seamus heaney. eavan boland is a wonderful female poet. oh yeah, and i like dylan thomas too
maybe i could sing along
to your neverending songs,
i'm just looking for some fun
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:12 PM
Post 15 of 85
ezra pound perhaps. the cantos rule.

can we classify steve perry as a poet?
You know you have problems, with both money and alcohol, when you find yourself shoving beers down your pants outside a Features show.
-jbc
Posted  Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:44 PM
Post 16 of 85
This is an odd topic. My favorite is and for a while has been

Wallace Stevens
I can't grow a beard, and I don't like to party.
~Matthew Tiberius Pelham
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 12:08 AM
Post 17 of 85
Yusef Komunyakaa, Robert Hass, and Adrienne Rich.
Also, Lynda Barry is a comic strip artist whose work is hilarious and somewhat dark. She weaves a lot of poetic material into her work.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 12:33 AM
Post 18 of 85
Welcome back etcetera, and we didn't even have to bring up 90210 again to get you here.
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 12:47 AM
Post 19 of 85
It takes a powerful thread to make me realize I have other interests besides 90210.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 10:40 AM
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hey yadadada do you like 'sunday morning' by stevens or stuff like 'the emperor of ice cream' he has a plethora of material
maybe i could sing along
to your neverending songs,
i'm just looking for some fun
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:03 AM
Post 21 of 85
definitely Ian Curtis. Not only did he front one of THE most influential and greatest bands of all time, but he also wrote heartbreaking and amazing lyrics.

(Edited by ray davies at 12:26 pm on Aug. 24, 2003)
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:05 AM
Post 22 of 85
... as well as inspire countless suicides...
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:16 AM
Post 23 of 85
Which proves once again my point...poetry is dead in the world, anyone that would have been a poet is a songwriter. Its sad.
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:55 AM
Post 24 of 85
Shel Silverstein definitely
"negro frijoles!!" ~m.m.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 3:00 PM
Post 25 of 85
i'd have to say tupac
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 4:00 PM
Post 26 of 85
for real, 'dear momma' was powerful.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 5:27 PM
Post 27 of 85
rainer maria rilke.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 6:24 PM
Post 28 of 85
"Quote from etcetera on Jun. 11, 2002 at 5:00 PM"
for real, 'dear momma' was powerful.

word
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 7:07 PM
Post 29 of 85
"Quote from JustAnotherDrive on Jun. 10, 2002 at 10:12 PM"
"Quote from mindylieu on Jun. 10, 2002 at 9:10 PM"
hey, don't knock the sifl and olly.  thats quality stuff. (no, im not being sarcastic)

That would be great. šIt'd be the only book I've bought in about 5 years.

i hope you're kidding. reading is good fun, i promise. you should check into it sometime.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 7:25 PM
Post 30 of 85
anne sexton
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 7:30 PM
Post 31 of 85
i'm also reading maya angelou's The Heart of a Woman and not to be too fiona apple, but i love maya angelou.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 3:10 PM
Post 32 of 85
maya angelou sucks soooo much fucking ass. she seems to be a favorite of confused girls though. same goes for tori amos.
Nothin' gets in my way....Not even locked doors!
Posted  Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 4:39 PM
Post 33 of 85
biz markie is a true poet
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:06 AM
Post 34 of 85
"Quote from exliontamer on Jun. 12, 2002 at 4:10 PM"
maya angelou sucks soooo much fucking ass. she seems to be a favorite of confused girls though.

truer words have never been spoken.
Posted  Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 7:48 PM
Post 35 of 85
Yes, Steve Perry counts. But I like Lawrence Ferlinghetti & Gary Snyder better.
Two sips from the cup of human kindness and I'm shitfaced
Posted  Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 11:24 PM
Post 36 of 85
"Quote from exliontamer"
maya angelou sucks soooo much fucking ass. she seems to be a favorite of confused girls though. same goes for tori amos.

ok so
i'm sitting in ka$hville playing urban housewife
with no cable being lame and looking forward to what happens next on days of our lives and getting excited about tuesdays because dr. phil is on oprah.

oprah's book club
yes, i bake
and i went to the lovely new library and checked out 5 books from oprah's book club.  that's where the heart of a woman came in.  and deep end of the ocean .  and i know this much is true .
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Sunday, June 23, 2002 at 11:14 AM
Post 37 of 85
i'd like to recite a few lines from a poem called damn it feels good to be a gangster...

this gangster here was a smart one
started living for the lord and i lasted
and all i gotta say to you wannabe
gonna be p*ssy eating  c*ck sucking pranksters
when the ship jumps off
what the f*ck you gonna do?


courtesy of the geto boys

(Edited by damon at 12:17 pm on June 23, 2002)
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Sunday, June 23, 2002 at 1:14 PM
Post 38 of 85
"Quote from exliontamer on Jun. 12, 2002 at 4:10 PM"
maya angelou sucks soooo much fucking ass. she seems to be a favorite of confused girls though. same goes for tori amos.

tori amos, while a favorite of confused and not confused girls alike, does not suck.
i cannot make you like her music, and i can understand if you think she's a freak. she is. but you cannot deny that she has a lot of fucking talent.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Sunday, June 23, 2002 at 1:24 PM
Post 39 of 85
sucks
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Sunday, June 23, 2002 at 7:22 PM
Post 40 of 85
weren't we speaking a few weeks earlier about closemindedness and music? like i said, there is a difference in saying somoene sucks bc of lack of talent and saying that you don't like someone as a matter of opinion.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Sunday, June 23, 2002 at 11:25 PM
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Just my charming sense of humor. Tori can certainly play piano and is basically good at what she does. It just isn't my bag.
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Monday, June 24, 2002 at 1:57 AM
Post 42 of 85
she certainly knows how to rip off kate bush. i like tori more than sara mcdhkglan.
Nothin' gets in my way....Not even locked doors!
Posted  Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 7:27 PM
Post 43 of 85
thank you for your compliance. totally, sarah maclaughlan's stuff isn't that innovative. some of it pretty, but its not that great over all.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 1:49 AM
Post 44 of 85
i still say that biz markie is the greatest poet of our time. with such lines as:

have you ever met a girl that you tried to date
but a year to make love she wanted you to wait
let me tell you a story of my situation
i was talking to this girl from the US nation
the way that i met her was on tour at a concert
she had long hair and a short miniskirt...

~and~


i asked her her name and she said blah blah blah...
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 4:36 AM
Post 45 of 85
"Quote from damon on Jun. 26, 2002 at 12:49 AM"
i still say that biz markie is the greatest poet of our time. with such lines as:

have you ever met a girl that you tried to date
but a year to make love she wanted you to wait
let me tell you a story of my situation
i was talking to this girl from the US nation
the way that i met her was on tour at a concert
she had long hair and a short miniskirt...

                              ~and~


i asked her her name and she said blah blah blah...
that last one with the 'blah blahs' is pretty cool. tori's main redeeming quality is that she really believes in elves. i wish everyone believed in elves and ate a lot of candy.
Nothin' gets in my way....Not even locked doors!
Posted  Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 11:18 AM
Post 46 of 85
"Quote from exliontamer on Jun. 26, 2002 at 5:36 AM"
"Quote from damon on Jun. 26, 2002 at 12:49 AM"
i still say that biz markie is the greatest poet of our time. with such lines as:

have you ever met a girl that you tried to date
but a year to make love she wanted you to wait
let me tell you a story of my situation
i was talking to this girl from the US nation
the way that i met her was on tour at a concert
she had long hair and a short miniskirt...

                              ~and~


i asked her her name and she said blah blah blah...
that last one with the 'blah blahs' is pretty cool. tori's main redeeming quality is that she really believes in elves. i wish everyone believed in elves and ate a lot of candy.

so true. there is a lack of stars who believe in elves and eat candy. we can only hope that the future holds more of them... preferably not michael jackson types.
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 2:22 PM
Post 47 of 85
good call.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 5:46 PM
Post 48 of 85
i'm not a fan of tori amos, but all my friends (gay, male) are. she was a customer of mine when i worked at an oyster bar in memphis several years ago. we talked briefly, i told her i wasn't a fan, but that i had just seen her video for jackie's strength. she was very nice and tipped very well.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 7:51 PM
Post 49 of 85
"Quote from sinasugarsick on Jun. 26, 2002 at 6:46 PM"
i'm not a fan of tori amos, but all my friends (gay, male) are.  she was a customer of mine when i worked at an oyster bar in memphis several years ago.  we talked briefly, i told her i wasn't a fan, but that i had just seen her video for jackie's strength.  she was very nice and tipped very well.

did this really happen? i am so jealous of you.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Friday, June 28, 2002 at 7:13 PM
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my favourite poet is tina barr.

she's got nice lines and a nice ass, too.

i like doing it EE style.....

oh that's right....... i like it E.E. style.............
the overly sensitve boy, the emo of emos....
Posted  Friday, June 28, 2002 at 7:34 PM
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O.K., poets....my favorite has always been Howard Nemerov......a former poet laureate.

Here's a little something very salient now, for a variety of reasons:

The Fourth of July

Because I am drunk, this Independence Night,
I watch the fireworks from far away,
From a high hill, across the moony green
Of lakes and other hills to the town harbor,
Where stately illuminations are flung aloft,
One light shattering in a hundred lights
Minute by minute. The reason I am crying,
Aside from only being country drunk,
That is, may be that I have just remembered
The sparklers, rockets, roman candles, and
So on, we used to be allowed to buy
When I was a boy, and set off by ourselves
At some peril to life and property.
Our freedom to abuse our freedom thus
Has since, I understand, been remedied
By legislation. Now the authorities
Arrange a perfectly safe public display
To be watched at a distance; and now also
The contribution of all the taxpayers
Together makes a more spectacular
Result than any could achieve alone
(A few pale pinwheels, or a firecracker
Fused at the dog's tail). It is, indeed, splendid:
Showers of roses in the sky, fountains
Of emeralds, and those profusely scattered zircons
Falling afalling, flowering as they fall
And followed distantly by a noise of thunder.
My eyes are half-afloat in happy tears.
God bless our Nation on a night like this,
And bless the careful and secure officials
Who celebrate our independence now.

I dedicate that one to the Bush administration and the federal government.  Anyone else feel they grew up in a better time??
Speak of me in the Third Person
Posted  Friday, June 28, 2002 at 9:55 PM
Post 52 of 85
"Quote from ThirdPerson on Jun. 28, 2002 at 8:34 PM"
 Anyone else feel they grew up in a better time??

Yes, indeed. Except that at least maybe kids won't be forced to say the discriminatory pledge anymore. But of course George W is already railing against that decision
Two sips from the cup of human kindness and I'm shitfaced
This topic was dormant for 13 months...
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 2:01 PM
Post 53 of 85
Seeing as it is a year later, there are some new faces, the whole reading suggestions thread, blah blah blah...I wonder if there are any good responses to this now, that aren't rappers, songwriters, or sock puppets.

I've been reading a lot of Pablo Neruda as of late.

(Edited by Ceeze at 2:03 pm on Aug. 9, 2003)
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 3:10 PM
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I would never, ever read poetry for fun and I rarely actually 'get' them on the first read through...or the second...or third...anyway, I didn't mind Theodore Roethke and Vachel Lindsay. Of course, those are the two that I wrote term papers on, so I know more about them.

Robert Frost is cool, too, but he's such an easy answer.
~Digsy S. Slattery

My New York City Exploits
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 3:39 PM
Post 55 of 85
"Quote from YaDaDaDa on Jun. 10, 2002 at 10:44 PM"
This is an odd topic. My favorite is and for a while has been

Wallace Stevens
Some things never change.
I can't grow a beard, and I don't like to party.
~Matthew Tiberius Pelham
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 6:16 PM
Post 56 of 85
"Quote from DigsySlattery on Aug. 9, 2003 at 2:10 PM"
Robert Frost is cool, too, but he's such an easy answer.
i can't stand robert frost. being named digsy redeems you, though. smile.gif
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 10:16 PM
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"Quote from damon on Aug. 9, 2003 at 6:16 PM"
"Quote from DigsySlattery on Aug. 9, 2003 at 2:10 PM"
Robert Frost is cool, too, but he's such an easy answer.
i can't stand robert frost. being named digsy redeems you, though. smile.gif
Of course my real answer is Liam Gallagher.

"Have you ever played with plasticine/even tried a trampoline." It's beautiful.
~Digsy S. Slattery

My New York City Exploits
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 10:30 PM
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"Quote from DigsySlattery on Aug. 9, 2003 at 9:16 PM"
"Quote from damon on Aug. 9, 2003 at 6:16 PM"
"Quote from DigsySlattery on Aug. 9, 2003 at 2:10 PM"
Robert Frost is cool, too, but he's such an easy answer.
i can't stand robert frost. being named digsy redeems you, though. smile.gif
Of course my real answer is Liam Gallagher.

"Have you ever played with plasticine/even tried a trampoline." It's beautiful.
he is quite the poet.

live for your toys, even though they make noise

althoughm, i really like how noel made motor car rhyme with jaguar (pronounced jag-u-ar).
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 10:51 PM
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"Quote from damon on Aug. 9, 2003 at 10:30 PM"
"Quote from DigsySlattery on Aug. 9, 2003 at 9:16 PM"
"Quote from damon on Aug. 9, 2003 at 6:16 PM"
"Quote from DigsySlattery on Aug. 9, 2003 at 2:10 PM"
Robert Frost is cool, too, but he's such an easy answer.
i can't stand robert frost. being named digsy redeems you, though. smile.gif
Of course my real answer is Liam Gallagher.

"Have you ever played with plasticine/even tried a trampoline." It's beautiful.
he is quite the poet.

live for your toys, even though they make noise

althoughm, i really like how noel made motor car rhyme with jaguar (pronounced jag-u-ar).
He also made 'star' rhyme with 'jaguar.' He likes rhyming things with 'jaguar.'
~Digsy S. Slattery

My New York City Exploits
Posted  Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 11:21 PM
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I'm a real fan of e.e. cummings (hence the signature) as well as Yeats and Wallace Stevens. I also like Sylvia Plath, though I certainly haven't delved into too much of her catalogue.
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 1:37 AM
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I like either Kerouac, Langston Hughes, or Blake. other than that, nothing really interests me in the way of poetry.
you're everybody's second home
always trying to get me alone
an easy way to lose it all
always there when all else fails
over by the west side rails
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 2:47 AM
Post 62 of 85
sylvia plath
anne sexton
dylon thomas
t.s. elliot
d.c. berman
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 5:02 AM
Post 63 of 85
"Quote from YaDaDaDa on Aug. 9, 2003 at 3:39 PM"
"Quote from YaDaDaDa on Jun. 10, 2002 at 10:44 PM"
This is an odd topic.  My favorite is and for a while has been

Wallace Stevens
Some things never change.
Wallace Stevens would be mine too. Emperor of Ice Cream is the longest poem that I have permenantly commited to memory... I love it so.

Will
You may like grandma's yard gnomes, but I've seen Rock City. Remember it.
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 3:36 PM
Post 64 of 85
"Quote from etcetera on Jun. 11, 2002 at 5:08 AM"
Yusef Komunyakaa, Robert Hass, and Adrienne Rich.
Also, Lynda Barry is a comic strip artist whose work is hilarious and somewhat dark. She weaves a lot of poetic material into her work.
all great answers. Yusef Komunyakaa is an amazing poet. he has spoken a couple of times at rhodes.
thank you for being a friend.
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 6:42 PM
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At the end of the day i've always been most inspired by Ginsberg. I'm into alliteration. Dylan Thomas will open a new world for you if you're not already into his stuff. I like reading T.S. Eliot for the way he puts sentences together but i think i'm too dumb to understand the overall themes he's talking about. embarrasingly i never "got it" until the english teacher explained it to me/the class. Kerouac is cool.

Hey what about Shakespeare? Any Jeff Tweedy supporters out there?

Unfortunately i am very poorly read and i know absolutely nothing about some of the more contemporary writers mentioned here. What can i say, i'm a film/music guy.
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 7:07 PM
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uglyapeman, is d.c. berman in reference to the infamous Nashvillian David Berman of the Silver Jews? I've never read his "poetry" but I guess i like his lyrics. Its funny, your list reads...Dylan Thomas, T.S. Eliot, and a guy who passed out drunk at my house one time.
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 8:52 PM
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"Quote from uglyapeman on Aug. 10, 2003 at 1:47 AM"
sylvia plath
anne sexton
dylon thomas
t.s. elliot
d.c. berman
you're no ugly apeman, your an ewok!
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 9:57 PM
Post 68 of 85
"Quote from roadie on Aug. 10, 2003 at 6:42 PM"
Dylan Thomas will open a new world for you if you're not already into his stuff.
Oh yes. Very true. I forgot all about him. Dylan Thomas is spectacular. I also read a very interesting sort of biography on him by his ex-wife, Caitlyn Thomas. Very insightful.
Posted  Monday, August 11, 2003 at 12:05 AM
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i would put tweedy on that list. he and costello are the best lyricists of our time, and l guess lyrics be poems. you dig?
Posted  Monday, August 11, 2003 at 1:19 AM
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"Quote from Ceeze on Aug. 9, 2003 at 2:01 PM"
I wonder if there are any good responses to this now, that aren't rappers, songwriters, or sock puppets.
Well, what should I have expected?
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Monday, August 11, 2003 at 8:01 AM
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"Quote from uglyapeman on Aug. 10, 2003 at 11:05 PM"
i would put tweedy on that list. he and costello are the best lyricists of our time, and l guess lyrics be poems. you dig?
the bird and the fat guy opposite abbot?
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 10:53 AM
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Dave Berman of Silver Jews and Idaho Kitchen Cleaning fame is an incredible lyricist which indeed led him to publish at least one book of poems, Actual Air. His poetry holds some of the same clever, vernacular-spinning style of his lyrics, but unlike the other leagues of musicians-turned-poets who should be immediately discarded (read: Jewel), Berman has clearly used his library card and been influenced by some excellent poets like Ashbery or perhaps Wright.

For those of you don't read or don’t "get" poetry as you say, quit reading the poems that you were previously assigned in high school. While Keats, Frost, Shelley and even (excuse me while I vomit) Emily Dickinson are each unmatched contributors to the craft, try reading more contemporary poets who write in the mindset and language closer to our own. And quit reading confessional, complaint-poetry by troubled suburban teens who too-often confuse their diary entires with art.

I highly recommend Marilyn Nelson, Andrew Hudgins, Yusek Komunyakaa, Seamus Heaney, Mark Jarman, Gerald Stern (personal favorite), Derek Walcott, and Robert Lowell.
Posted  Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 7:40 PM
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and dave berman could be seen at gold rush last week singing the mtsu blue raiders fight song.
she's just another ho that i met in the hood
i told her i was crunchy black and it was all good
Posted  Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 8:17 PM
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"Quote from freezetag on Aug. 12, 2003 at 10:53 AM"
Dave Berman of Silver Jews and Idaho Kitchen Cleaning fame is an incredible lyricist which indeed led him to publish at least one book of poems, Actual Air.  His poetry holds some of the same clever, vernacular-spinning style of his lyrics, but unlike the other leagues of musicians-turned-poets who should be immediately discarded (read: Jewel), Berman has clearly used his library card and been influenced by some excellent poets like Ashbery or perhaps Wright.

For those of you don't read or don’t "get" poetry as you say, quit reading the poems that you were previously assigned in high school.  While Keats, Frost, Shelley and even (excuse me while I vomit) Emily Dickinson are each unmatched contributors to the craft, try reading more contemporary poets who write in the mindset and language closer to our own.  And quit reading confessional, complaint-poetry by troubled suburban teens who too-often confuse their diary entires with art.

I highly recommend Marilyn Nelson, Andrew Hudgins, Yusek Komunyakaa, Seamus Heaney, Mark Jarman, Gerald Stern (personal favorite), Derek Walcott, and Robert Lowell.
Welcome back Freezetag.

(Edited by Keith at 8:21 pm on Aug. 12, 2003)
I TOTALLY AGREE!


Keith, you are destined to rock. Never forget this.
-SLACK

Posted  Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 3:00 AM
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Q-Tip: Abstract poet, prominent like Shakespeare
Posted  Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 3:55 AM
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I'm really into Emily Dickenson. I like the roller coaster of emotions that all of her poems bring to me. It is evident in the tone and mood of most of her poems that she is manic depressive/bipolar.
I HEARD a fly buzz when I died;
The stillness round my form
Was like the stillness in the air
Between the heaves of storm.

The eyes beside had wrung them dry, 5
And breaths were gathering sure
For that last onset, when the king
Be witnessed in his power.

I willed my keepsakes, signed away
What portion of me I 10
Could make assignable,—and then
There interposed a fly,

With blue, uncertain, stumbling buzz,
Between the light and me;
And then the windows failed, and then 15
I could not see to see.

Posted  Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 4:12 AM
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"Quote from Pdog909 on Aug. 24, 2003 at 2:55 AM"
I'm really into Emily Dickenson. I like the roller coaster of emotions that all of her poems bring to me. It is evident in the tone and mood of most of her poems that she is manic depressive/bipolar.
Welcome Pdog!

Emily Dickenson has always been too deep for me... but I hold a soft spot in my heart for anyone that Dorothy Jane Torkelson adored so much. I was always fond of the Man in the Moon, too.
Posted  Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 11:51 AM
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Charles Bukowski
...The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon; the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true...
Posted  Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 12:02 PM
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pdog,

I'll give you that the above poem isn't bad. I just can't get into her stuff mostly because of the "oh, come on" factor. I just want to shake her and scream "give it a rest already!" Talk about a poet beating one style into the ground. And hey, the depressed/bipolar thing was already old by dickenson's time, and I dare say its been done better since. Don't all writers of any substance suffer from any combination of depression, alcoholism, anxiety, or whatever mental illness?

its the same reason Rainer Maria (sp?) makes me puke. Pompous, heavy handed diary lyrics sung in free verse to sound indie. Someone tell her nobody gives a shit!

Does this make me a misogynist?
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
This topic was dormant for 10½ months...
Posted  Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 1:11 PM
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i nominate ceeze.






also alfred, lord tennyson. i'm naming my first born for him.
i let the melody shine
let it cleanse my mind
i feel free now.
Posted  Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 3:19 PM
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"Quote from Pdog909 on Aug. 24, 2003 at 2:55 AM"
I'm really into Emily Dickenson. I like the roller coaster of emotions that all of her poems bring to me. It is evident in the tone and mood of most of her poems that she is manic depressive/bipolar.
I HEARD a fly buzz when I died;  
 The stillness round my form  
Was like the stillness in the air  
 Between the heaves of storm.  
 
The eyes beside had wrung them dry,         5
 And breaths were gathering sure  
For that last onset, when the king  
 Be witnessed in his power.  
 
I willed my keepsakes, signed away  
 What portion of me I         10
Could make assignable,—and then  
 There interposed a fly,  
 
With blue, uncertain, stumbling buzz,  
 Between the light and me;  
And then the windows failed, and then         15
 I could not see to see.
Did you know you can sing any of her poems to the theme of Gilligan's Island?! Try it.
"Look at that lip. Gonna bite it."
Posted  Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 4:06 PM
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"Quote from BittersweetMe on Jul. 20, 2004 at 2:19 PM"
"Quote from Pdog909 on Aug. 24, 2003 at 2:55 AM"
I'm really into Emily Dickenson. I like the roller coaster of emotions that all of her poems bring to me. It is evident in the tone and mood of most of her poems that she is manic depressive/bipolar.
I HEARD a fly buzz when I died;  
 The stillness round my form  
Was like the stillness in the air  
 Between the heaves of storm.  
 
The eyes beside had wrung them dry,         5
 And breaths were gathering sure  
For that last onset, when the king  
 Be witnessed in his power.  
 
I willed my keepsakes, signed away  
 What portion of me I         10
Could make assignable,—and then  
 There interposed a fly,  
 
With blue, uncertain, stumbling buzz,  
 Between the light and me;  
And then the windows failed, and then         15
 I could not see to see.
Did you know you can sing any of her poems to the theme of Gilligan's Island?! Try it.
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I wanna offended no persons!
Posted  Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 4:15 PM
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"Quote from BittersweetMe on Jul. 20, 2004 at 3:19 PM"
Did you know you can sing any of her poems to the theme of Gilligan's Island?! Try it.
And Yellow Rose of Texas, and Amazing Grace. This also means you can sing the theme to Gilligan's Island to the tune of Amazing Grace, and vice versa. I do this periodically when I'm bored.
I am a horse with no name.
Posted  Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 6:10 PM
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louise gluck, rimbaud, pablo neruda, theodore roethke, e.e. cummings, galway kinnell, nick bozanic, richard wilbur, talvikki ansel, michael ondaatje,
rainer maria rilke, ezra pound, robert creeley, jorie graham, james dickey, leonard cohen, lorca, elliott, dorothy parker, wh auden, james wright, zbignew herbert, charles simic, the requesite plath-sexton-rich, sometimes william carlos williams & wallace stevens, depending on my mood...

...i could go on for days as this is my field...well, i am getting my master's in it so...but it all just comes down to i love words, love language...poetry is good stuff
And as your fantasies are broken in two
Did you really think this bloody road would
Pave the way for you?
You better turn around and blow your kiss hello to life eternal, angel

- jeff buckley, "eternal life"
Posted  Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 11:55 PM
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"Quote from exliontamer on Jun. 26, 2002 at 3:36 AM"
that last one with the 'blah blahs' is pretty cool. tori's main redeeming quality is that she really believes in elves. i wish everyone believed in elves and ate a lot of candy.
I LOVE candy. And Garcia Lorca. Is Bukowski a poet or just a dirty old man(not that there is anything wrong with it)?

I've often found that people who write poetry aren't necesarily poets.




Jeff Tweedy though, yeah, I bet he likes candy.
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