Zagat, that group that puts out guidebooks to restaurants & other things, is compiling a book about the greatest albums ever. Yes, this is totally not in their area of expertise and promises to be disappointing. But you can register at Zagat.com to review albums & rate them for inclusion in the book. So if you feel like your opinion is never heard here, go to Zagat. Plus you get a free copy of the book when it comes out if you register & review.

Too bad Chris Farley is no longer with us... His collaboration with Adam Sandler on this would be priceless, I'm sure.

Everyone reading this right now hould just prepare for the disappointment that this will bring. As bad as Rolling Stone and Spin's lists have been received here, this will be even worse. If their movie guide is any indication, anyway.

Will

I'll bet you a doughnut that there's Burt Bachrach album on the list.

I'll bet you a bearclaw that Carole King's Tapestry is on that list.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 4:39 am on Feb. 18, 2003)

YDDD can provide us with some comments on that album.

i'll bet you an owl that the sex pistols will be given more credit than they deserve as musicians.

I'll bet you a pouch of Big League Chew that Never Mind the Bullocks isn't on that list.

well that's a bummer...whats the point of making a list that doesn't include the sex pistols... i know, i know, i just can't be pleased . . .

i detest that album. dreadful.

I think breakfast sweets should become a standard for gambling, big league chew is the most inefficient gum ever, and bugles are its chip counterpart.

What kinda owl are we talking? I'd take that bet on a burrow owl or even maybe a barn owl, but if you're talking great horned owl, I'm out, to rich for my blood.

The Sex Pistols cannot get more credit than they deserve. You are looking at that album with 2003 jaded eyes. Bollocks was more about the social change and upheval it was expressing at the time. Whether they were the first "boy band" as Malcolm McLaren claims or hip scenesters as John Liden would have you think, there's no denying what Bollocks and the band did to the music scene.

Same could be said for Nirvana's "Nevermind". It is, in my opinion, their worst album. Way over produced. Give me "In Utero" any day. But Nevermind will be on best albums lists forever because of the social significance at the time. I was a bit to young to be immediately impacted by the Sex Pistols, but I was right in the middle of it for the second punk wave. You "knew" something was happening and I can only imagine that feeling was even more magnified in late 70's London.

Just my two cents.

(Edited by Peace Frog at 1:45 pm on Feb. 18, 2003)

when i was a kid, my grandpa's german shepherd ate a whole box of bugles while everyone was asleep. we woke up the next morning to multiple piles of bugles vomit. that's what i think of whenever i see bugles. now, maybe you will too. by the way, grape and strawberry big league chew are incredible.

Uh oh, better hope Sina doesn't see this. Did you go to MTSU by any chance, Mr. Frog?

I'm kidding.

correcting now... and no I didn't!!! Not that there's anything wrong with it.

I've just remembered bubble tape. that was the most inefficient gum ever, no matter how many feet you started with. yeah, at least big league chew tastes good.

while we're talking gum, i think wrigley's spearmint might be my favorite flavor of all time. too bad they changed the packaging. wrigley's was one of the last companies to have their old look. nabisco mallomars still look good. i haven't had a good bubble gum in a while. all of the new flavors are so sour that i swallow them. i think my brain gets tricked into thinking it's taffy.

chicklets - best fuckin gum ever. and bubble tape was tasty, and i thought it was a pretty good invention. you can get whatever sized gum you wanted! none of this standadized bullshit.


bubble wrap on the other hand, while not a tasty treat, is the best toy on earth.

mmmmm, gum. i think my favorite gum would be extra polar ice. it just never loses it's flavor, i swear it's straight out of willy's factory. bubble gum wise, i think carefree sugarless gets my vote. it tastes extra rubbery, and i like that. bubble tape is fun to play with. one time i fit about 3/4 of the pack into my mouth at once. it looked like a small brain when i was done.

the best gum ever is "freshen-up", the kind of gum that has the syrup in the middle. i love that stuff.

Lime green Extra. My Mom used to give it to me when I was a good little girl (last week).

i'm the only member of my family who's not a packrat. they always got mad at me during chistmas for popping bubble wrap. i've never in my life seen anyone reuse friggin bubble wrap.

I love bubalicious because there are so many good flavors and the pieces come big (I can't stand Trident since they are so small, I have to eat like 5 pieces at a time.) and makes it very easy to blow bubbles. For chewing gum I love the cinnimon ones like Big Red. Do y'all remember Fruitaburst? It was so fruity and never lost flavor but I haven't seen it in a while.

Wrigley's Spearmint: best overall chewing gum of all time.

But lately, I've been more into Extra Spearmint. It doesn't taste quite as good as Wrigley's, but it lasts a lot longer.

These new "extreme" mint flavored mints/gums/stamps-of-acid are lost on me. I just don't want something that strong.

Ray- FreshenUp reminds me of this kind of gum that existed back in the 80s that had syrup in the middle. There were, like, Coca-Cola and Root Beer flavors.

Bubble Wrap - I luv it. Holding a piece of it in one hand and popping it, bubble-by-bubble, is so theraputic for me. I revealed my love to my co-workers, and now they are always giving me bubble wrap to pop at work.

Token keeps it away from me for this reason.

chewing gun: big red

bubble gum: cotton candy bubble yum

breakfast pastry: cream cheese danish


peacefrog: i was thinking about the stuff you told us after the exit/in show. do you by chance know nardwuar?

The name doesn't ring a bell... of course all this stuff happened 9 years ago to me... I didn't happen to meander into your workplace tonight did I? I was quite interested in cocktail shakers and black martini glasses.

purple bubble tape used to be my gum de jure, but now i'm a big league chew man

yes, and mintaburst was so kickass. my all time faves: mintaburst, cotton candy bubble yum and radical red bubbalicious (this is a hard to find out of print indie rock single from 1997) but i still miss that gum.

"that gum you like is going to come back in style". "I know that gum! I used to chew that gum when I was a little boy! that's my most favoritist gum in thw hole wide world"

Not to get picky for no good reason, but the flavors of the tasty gum from the 80s with syrup in the middle were: Dr Pepper, RC Cola, 7-Up, and A&W Root Beer.

That shit was the bomb... so much so that it caused me to break character and use the phrase "that shit was the bomb."

Will

(Edited by Wiyum at 12:27 am on Feb. 19, 2003)

Oh shit, i remember that....i used to chew the 7-up kind all of the time

does anyone remember Gatorade gum? i loved that stuff, the lemon-lime flavor especially.....

Man! You beat me to my Twin Peaks quote for the week.

Brilliance... sheer brilliance.

"The Owls are not what they seem..."

Will

now your grandpa's dog eats arm hair.

silly poncho. i don't even have that much arm hair and he still manages to find it and tear it. i'm glad i never wear shorts.

So your grandpa has a german shephard named poncho?!??! I find this hilarious... Gerhard, ok, Hans, cool, Fritz, of course, Poncho?!?!?! I want to meet this man!!! Does it attack when given spanish commands in a german accent? Or vice-a-versa?

the german shepherd died years ago. poncho looks like a cross between every little dog that's mean(except a pomeranian). he closely resembles a chihuahua on peyote. poncho doesn't like kids, jerky movements, strange noises, or music.

I almost bought a 32 oz. bag of chiclets at Sam's Club last night. I know they're for use in vending machines, but who's to tell?

I'm afraid, though, that silly putty is the best toy on earth. No need for explanation.

Is that supposed to mean that you don't like Burt Bacharach...?

Burt is a creepy man. I still have mixed feelings about the Elvis collaboration.

My aunt used to give me a pack of Freshen-Up everytime she saw me when I was a kid. My favorite was cinnamon. Mmm...juice-filled center...

Freshen-Up is one of my favorite gums. I only like the bublegum flavored kind, though. I don't like cinnamon flavored stuff. . . yucky.

fuck gum, give me some of those listerine strips. it's like walking through a misty mint forest on mushrooms.

That's the one, Will. How could I forget the 7-Up flavor?

Since we're on the subject of chewing gum, I'll admit something to ya'll: I can't blow a bubble. I have never been able to. Don't think that you can be the one to show me how. People have been trying to teach me how since I was 2 feet tall. It's just not gonna happen.

Gah! That stuff burns! It belongs alongside glow sticks and neon JNCOs as rave gear.

(Edited by DigsySlattery at 6:10 pm on Feb. 19, 2003)

For the longest time, jamie, I too was in your shoes. I would never dein to assume that I could show you, but my hint is to get your hands on some bubble yum (cotton candy flavor is best) because its gum made for bubbles.

Will

I know what it feels to not be able to do something that many can do. I cannot snap my fingers. Cruel hand of fate!

goddamn, i had forgotten about that!! THAT was some seriously kick ass gum.

nardwuar is from canada, if that rings a bell.

aaaahhh, you're going to have to say hi so i'll remeber who you are. which i should of lastnight, you were probably the only customer in the store. and we were probably at the register talking about things we shouldn't talk about around customers.

Well now I'm totally lost. The person I had a faint inkling it could be has been eliminated. So I guess not. If you'd like to tell me I'm all for secrets!!!

I would've said hi, but I wasn't 100% sure it was you, since you had said before you worked at Ted's. My guess was you were playing some mean solitaire, or on this board. You were quite interested in the computer.

i can't whistle. i always feel like a loser when singin along arrogantly to "thursday".

i couldn't burp for the majority of my life. i just learned how about a year ago. instead i would make this weird little noise in my throat, but nothing spectacular. i know how it is, guys. painful.

me too.

me three.

I can whistle, but it is very faint. And JC, eventhough many have tried to teach you to blow a bubble, I will give it a try this weekend...See if my method of teaching works.

i can't roll my R's. i can do a very very slight "ruffles have ridges" but the R-rolling only lasts a split second.

when i went to type "roll" i actually typed "rollum" and i had to go back and erase the -UM.

it's just like that willie nelson song.....he's always on your mind.

I cannot roll my Rs either. It usually just ends up sounding like an 'l' and then I proceed to spit and babble. I do that for a lot of other stuff too, but it's more prominent when I try to roll the ol' Rs.

nardwuar is an old friend of mine. he used to work at a radiostation back in the day, did alot of interviews. he hung out with k & c, though courtney hated him the first time she met him.
anyway, you two basically did the same stuff around the same time so i thought you might've known him.

oh and job a. is ted's
job b. is the black martini place
and i was on this message board!

Oooooookay. After looking at his site, I've heard of the guy. Don't know him personally, though. You have to realize that I was the alt rock director at my college radio station in the Quad Cities, and all of 21. We used to get a lot of shows because we were 2 hours from Chicago, so a band would schedule two days at, say, the Metro or Double Door, and play the Quads on a Thursday night, as a warm up. Since we were a CMJ station, we would get passes to all the shows, because at that time, we had more "cred" than the corporate stations (I had Nirvana, Pearl Jam & The Pumpkins all running as CMJ Hot Picks at a minimum two months before the rock stations in the market would even give them a spin. [not that I'm some genius, it was a no brainer for our format. It was just the radio climate at the time])

So essentially, all these bands would spend the night in the Quad Cities, and since I was around their age and semi-literate in the scene, they'd always want me to take them somewhere, or we'd just hang at the hotel or something. I never really knew why this was until I went on the road with the Features. Being in a bus or sharing a floor with the same four guys 24 hours a day makes you long for outside contact, and we were only gone 2 weeks!!!

I was just very, very lucky, geographically and socially to be in the right place at the right time. Pat S. was the only person I ever traded e-mail's with (and I honestly think the only reason that was, was because I was such a huge Germs fan, and he couldn't believe that I would even know of them) and that led to K and C's screennames. The only other person who may remember me at all would be James Iha. We had some fun nights. I met him on the Gish Tour, he remembered me the next time thru on the Siamese Dream Tour, and my now wife and I were his guests for Mellon Collie. While I have met and hung with a metric shit ton of rock bands, I must bow down to you, Sina and the relationships you've formed. Most impressive.

ok... no more drunken posts from the Peace Frog... Jesus, that was diarhea of the mouth.... sorry

How do find time to work at deja vu?

it's hard balancing jobs

thank god mike is there to pick up shifts at deja vu when i'm too tired to go in.

Pick up shifts? I have turn em' down! Ow!

wowsers. you were drunk? thats some pretty good typing and decent storytelling for an old rummy.

Years of practice, babe... years of practice...

(disclaimer: This post was not typed under the influence of alcohol. Just mild sedatives and some 'tussin.)