thanks, sadie.

this might be a little too similar to bad habits but what are your guilty pleasures?

im going to have to go with the disney channel and britney spears for now. more later.

Passions: I used to never miss an episode. I mean, never. I set my VCR to tape it when I was in high school. I still watch it, but just occasionally.

I would say Days of Our Lives, but I don't feel guilty about it even though other people probably think I should. I've watched it since I was about four, probably, and it is used to be wonderful.

More later...

Rachel, you are the savior of the messageboard. Jamie Carroll would be proud.

My guilty pleasures are:
Older women (50 is about as high as I will go, but I am sure that exceptions exist)
Wrestling (well it used to be, but I never stay at home to watch it anymore)
Conservative Republicanism
Details Magazine
80's Porn
Jose Canseco
Shopping at Wal-Mart (I hate Wal-Mart, but I can't...stop...going )


(Edited by richarddawson at 11:03 pm on May. 21, 2003)

I rarely feel guilty about anything I do or like. I have a soft spot in my heart for Phil Collins era Genesis, as well as Huey Lewis & The News and Boston. I'm an old-school Real World/Road Rules junkie. I enjoyed the Charlie's Angels movie and own it on DVD. Other than that, I proudly admit to everything else I like, I think...

Same! Its the highlight of my summer. Any soap that has witches and midgets is alright with me.

Sadie, we have a lot in common. I will definatley say hi next show!

I usually end up getting addicted to the Young & The Restless over summer. I tried to watch Passions, but I usually ended up missing it despite the fact that it was very funny.

Does anyone else watch channel 5's "Talk of the Town" with Meryl Rose, Harry Chapman, and...well it used to be Joe Case, but he went to Fox. Anyway, I usually have that on if I'm in front of the TV from 12:30-1:30 (which I always am). That's pretty embarrassing.

(Edited by DigsySlattery at 12:22 am on May. 22, 2003)

I think we do have a lot in common. I think you've said "Same!" to about five of my posts in the past day or so.

I used to do the exact same thing before I began working. They run back-to-back, which is nice. Damn my mom for this filthy, guilty pleasure. It is all her fault for subjecting me to it in my younger years. She also got me hooked on "Sisters" in the early to mid-nineties. I stand by that though. It was a cool show.

Does anyone remember a teen soap called "Swans Crossing" that came on Fox around 9 AM in about 1992 or so? I used to love that show!

(Edited by richarddawson at 11:28 pm on May. 21, 2003)

DeGrassi.

I don't think I like it as much as I like to watch thier interpretation of "real middle school life" and critique it. I guess it is the closest that a lot have come but, "If your life was a tv show, this would be it" my ass.

These all go hand in hand, fucking Republicans.

By the way, has Jamie posted as of late recently, or have I missed it?

This is all true if you mean that Republicans hate Wal-Mart for their monopolistic ways. Many of the small business owners that I know are Republicans and hate Wal-Mart.

He said he was going somewhere.. New Orleans maybe? I have no idea. I just remember him saying he was going somewhere.

Maybe HE is Mike_D's agro male ex lover!

Maybe Jamie was the agro-(fe)male who kidnapped Mike D and took him to Robert Stack's spaceship?

OH, I used to watch it too. I liked it. I only barely remember it. I was thinking it comes on the Soaps channel, but I never watch it since they don't show NBC soaps.

Ha! beat you to it!

That makes so much sense that it scares me.

i used to watch "crook and chase" every day after school when i was in junior high. i got to the point to thinking that i "knew" charlie chase and so when i saw him at city cafe one day i caught myself about to say "hey charlie! its me!" as if he knew who i was too.

"talk of the town" reminded me.

I always enjoyed the relationship between "Crook & Chase" and "Talk Soup." There was one episode of "Talk Soup" where John Henson had to introdue a clip of "Crook & Chase" introducing a clip of John Henson introducing a clip of "Crook & Chase" on "Talk Soup."

WOW, I completely forgot about Talk Soup! I really liked it with John Henson, but I still liked the black girl from the 5th Wheel who hosted for a season or two. Speaking of which, I wish that she was still on the 5th Wheel making fun of the goofy-ass men that they have on there. I hate those guys. They give us all a bad name. It's embarrassing, because the women are usually far out of their league.

Oh, my other guilty pleasure: new-age dating shows

Hmm, I also enjoy the dating shows, but I don't really feel guilty about watching them. I always get disgusted while watching them though.

"Talk Soup" was one of the shows that I lived on in 8th grade. Of course, I only like John Henson. I never gave Aisha Tyler a chance,but she is entertaining on "Friends" so she can't be that bad. I actually have a bunch of episodes of "Talk Soup" on tape since I began taping them once I heard that John Henson was leaving. I probably have about 15 or so...

I feel guilty for watching so many men make jackasses of themselves. I must go on these shows and redeem my fellow men.

(Edited by richarddawson at 12:36 am on May. 22, 2003)

that woud be amusing.

Then it's settled! Take note that I would prefer to go on MTV's dating show (which involves all of my friends watching the date as it happens in a tv room with my date's friends), because they have way hotter babes on there. On second though, I have a better shot at a threesome on the 5th Wheel. 5th Wheel it is! Or better yet, both!

(Edited by richarddawson at 12:41 am on May. 22, 2003)

Guilty pleasures

rock and roll so terrible that it's amusing
VH-1 countdowns and other programming

Mine is Steve Miller Band. I love it.

what's to be guilty about that?

Mine are:

A Whopper Value Meal with cheese from Burger King
Making fun of people
Seeing someone I don't like screw up somehow (fender benders, bad grades, etc.).
Accepting bribes
That Pat Sajak Show

None of these go to the extent of being illegal...I don't think.

Alan

Guilty Pleasures:

1. Granny panties - they're just so comfy. Who needs thongs?
2. Bleach - I love using it.
3. Britney Spears (good call, Rachel) - she's so hot
4. Wearing hats - people make fun of me
5. Jeopardy
6. American Idol
7. VH1 Countdowns, etc - ooh, especially the "I Love the 80's" ones

Well, I'm not truly guilty about any of these, but...

i do. ive gotten so used to them they arent uncomfortable anymore. im not one of those every single day people but i need them quite often. i actually really like the boy brief undies. they dont show panty lines and they are very comfortable and very cute.

VH1
The albums I bought when I was a freshman in high school
Big 'N' Tasty's
Vodka
Cigarettes
Techno and Hip Hop
Peanut Butter Twixes and Mountain Dews for breakfast.

1. Matlock
2. Old Game shows (match game, family fued, password, $250,000 pyramid)
3. Original nintendo
4. Unhealthy amounts of coffee
5. chocolate milk shakes
6. GOOD horror movies

ohh yes, and making ringtones

(Edited by joeywade at 2:22 pm on May. 22, 2003)

Pretty much anything British is a guilty pleasure for me - only guilty because I sometimes like things just because they are from England, not because of their particular merits. I am quite the Anglophile.

Without sounding like I pervert I must admit that I'm down with these as well. On girls, I mean. I swear. Really.

more guilty pleasures:

snood
john mayer
twixs for breakfast (and lunch.. and snacktime.. and dinner)
sorority/fraternity life
rap
the carpenters - superstar
this board
the history channel

(Edited by rachel1808 at 3:42 pm on May. 22, 2003)

hmm... i forgot BAD horror movies on my list.

me too. that and "a league of their own"

SNOOD!!!!!!!!

i miss freshman year . . .

Dude, wear that stuff proudly. If I get bored enough this summer, I am defintely making a Charles Nelson Reilly shirt. Heck, I've already made both a CNR and Richard Dawson button...

Maybe that's info that I should keep to myself....

Richard Dawson was by far the best host of Family Fued ever to exist. I saw that "AL" from home improvement is hosting the newer versions and he lacks the gameshow personality big time. t

Yeah, although I have respect for Al (I grew up on mega-doses of Tool Time). Louie Anderson was as annoying as Fran Drescher, and nowhere near as hott.

There is no reason to feel guilty about those. I love gameshows, especially old game shows. I love original nintendo equally as much. And, I love horror movies of all kinds, including bad ones. Some of the funniest movies I've ever seen are horror movies.

I'm sorry to all you Richard Dawson fans out there, but he just creeped me out. I first saw him as the bad guy in The Running Man when I was little, so I hated him ever since. Seeing him kiss every woman in sight (and later finding out that he was a bona fide womanizer) just gave me the heebie jeebies. Give me Ray Combs.

No offense to Digsy, but all of those 70's gameshow personalities kinda scare me. Gene Rayborn looks like an ape, CNR has excessive drool, and Richard is freakishly tan. RD looks like a gigalo.

Well, after watching the "E! True Hollywood Story" about "Family Fued," it was revealed that all the women were asked before hand whether or not they wanted to be kissed, and they almost always said yes. Richard during the later "Family Feud" years where he is extremely tan isn't as cool as "Hogan's Heroes" or "What's My Line?" Richard. "Match Game" Richard is the funniest, though.

Brett Somers is terrifying and Gene Rayburn does look like a refugee from "Planet of the Apes." Chuck just had some saliva problems, no reason to call him a freak. He's still cooler than 90% of the celebrities alive today...well he's alive today, but I mean prominent celebrities...

And I still think Fannie Flagg is hott.

Speaking of funny horror movies... have you seen Jason X ??? it has gotta be the funniest movie i've seen in the past few months. I mean, it's unbelievably similar to watching a bad episode of star trek....

I too love the Carpenters and feel moderately guilty about it in certain company.

completely agreed.

Richard Karn went to University of Evansville. That was our big claim to fame. Hell yeah!

*startrek, the next generation---watched it ALL THE TIME in highschool
*chocolate donuts (the little kinds that you get at the gas station) and as many Mt. Dew's as my body can handle.
*i also am a fan of the corny, sluty, dating games. i have to go with elimidate even though it's a copy of the mtv version
*buying books that i'm not sure when i will ever get around to reading...only guilty because i am possibly wasting money

i've also been told that my love for "Boy Meets World" should be considered a guilty pleasure, but i don't agree.....also, not a guilty one, but the Wonder Years has got to be one of the greatest sitcoms ever.

does anyone remember the soap opera type thing that used to come on Nickelodeon that had to do with high school....they even came out with books, but i can't remember the name (you can't do that on television is also a show to make note of)

I agree. The Savage bothers are comedic geniuses.

There was one called "15," but I don't know if that's what you are referring to.

I think she is referring to "Fifteen." It starred the guy who later went on to be in "Two Guys, A Girl, And A Pizza Place."

I was way off. Sorry.

There was also "Welcome Freshmen". It was comedic, so I doubt it's what she was talking about. What was the guy's name who had the camera and tried to get into the girls' bathroom all the time?

I share the guilty pleasure of liking those horrible dating shows. I just laugh at some of the things the people on there do to make sure they are the ones that are going to be picked. Elimidate is absolutely hilarious when it involves a guy picking out of 4 girls...All they do is try to cut down on each other and have attitudes. I just sit there and think of how much I would hate them all in real life. BUT, that's the reason I continue to watch; it fascinates me that there are people that shallow. I love to hate them, I suppose.

Guilty pleasures? Shit. I literally have so many that it would be easier to name things in my life that aren't guilty pleasures. My life is one big guilty pleasure.

Just in the last 24 hours, my guilty pleasures have included:

In Style
Justin Timberlake's album
Krystal
Camel Lights
Vodka and __________ juice
Slot Machines
Archie Comics
Starbucks
Boston (the band)

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 1:49 pm on May. 23, 2003)

exliontamer is OBSESSED with "rock your body". he's seen the video twice and constantly checks mtv to see if they're playing the video. i think the album would be his guilty pleasure, too, if he'd heard the whole thing.

Being around my parents tonight has reminded me how much guilty pleasure I take in their silly arguments. Very entertaining.

The rest of the album? All of the Neptunes songs (there are about 6, and "Rock Your Body" is one) are great, and so is "Cry Me a River." The rest is pretty boring, and the song with Brian McKnight is especially bad. But the good songs are good enough to make it worth the purchase, in my opinion.

holy shit, what i would not give for a 15 marathon. that was the greatest show!!!!!!!

Illegal in any quantity, I'm afraid.

Will

That new Surfer Girl show on MTV
Rodney Dangerfield
Girls Gone Wild
old school Lenny Kravitz
Bill OReilly (this is more of a morbid curiosity--I don't like him I just like to know what the enemy is thinking)
Expensive European sports cars
Snoop Dogg

Cigarettes, of course, rank pretty high

That song reminds me of some early 80's Michael Jackson song. I want to call it "Dance the Night Away" but that may just be a Van Halen song. As much as I hate to say it about that MC5 shirt-wearing bitch, I like the "Rock Your Body" song too. It's good. On a separate note, Jennifer Anniston was seen wearing the same MC5 shirt recently. But, as Brother Love put it, "She can do that."

I'll have to agree with this one.. I like the song to.. that 's my jam... I'll leave it at that. But that song has always made me think of MJ's song "Dance the night away". yep.

i love justin timberlake. i used to be hardcore though, man. i think its a good thing he shaved his head and grew a little goatee. after he did that i stopped liking him as much and gradually came out of my obsession. i still have two posters of him on my door though. i guess hes still sort of a guilty pleasure since the posters are in the least visible spot of my room.

*shakes head in dismay*

oh come on. five pages of everyones guilty pleasures and MINE gets the head shake. psh.

i think it was the severity instead of the subject that got the head shake. *shakes head*

yes, thats it. everyone else has begrudgingly admitted to liking 1 song. there were no posters or hardcoreness involved.

lol it's ok rachel I won't "condemn u to the depths of hell" for it:P an by the way I like the new shaven head thing, it's sexy. Before when he had that curly hair thing going on.. it made me think of screech from saved by the bell lol

oh my god! i never thought about that before, but thats really funny.
and rachel, im just kiddin', yo.
i understand wyhat its like to be 15, and yr just confused and you don't know a lot about music yet.
i'm just kidding again. i get shit for my age all the time. yr a cool chick, no matter where you attend school.
if it makes you feel any better, i seriously contemplated buyng "no strings attached" for about a week when it came out. only to listen to in secret, of course.

well thank you and id like to state that someone offered me a free justin poster yesterday and i declined. & i know you were kidding, even if you weren't i dont think id get very defensive over justin timberlake.

Dude, there is no shame in liking Justin Timberlake. I like his music, and I don't mean just one song. He's not claming to be Thom Yorke; he just writes catchy pop/r&b songs and looks good shaking his ass. At least he's honest about what he's doing. I have a lot more respect for and interest in him than in most of today's popular rock bands.

I can actually see your point. But does Justin Timberlake write his songs? I was just wondering...it doesn't really matter if he does or doesn't, because his pop stuff is nowhere near as grating as Avril and all those wannabe gutter-punks. The severe suckitude of the current 'tEeN pUnK!!' scene actually makes me long for the days of Hanson and BSB...

I also seriously like Ludacris. This morning, I purposely held off eating breakfast so I could sit in my bed and watch his new video from the 2 Fast 2 Furious soundtrack, 'Act A Fool.' It's great.

(Edited by DigsySlattery at 4:02 pm on May. 28, 2003)

He says he helped write the album. I don't know how many songs he did all by himsef but I do know worked on some. I'm pretty sure the lyric "you're out of this world except you're not green" was his input.

I think he is more talented than most people think. I've seen him play the piano, guitar and drums plus the singing and dancing. And yes. He looks very good shaking his ass.

My buddy bought Justified last week and I had a look at the liner notes. Justin Timberlake has a writing credit on every song on the album. But it seems he wrote none by himself. They're all "Hugo/Timberlake/Williams" or "Mosley/Timberlake." You can read into that what you want. I would imagine that he contributes some lyrical ideas, but not much more than that.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 4:21 pm on May. 28, 2003)

and i wish that he wouldnt. they could have been so much better without his overt cheesiness. its so clear what lines he wrote and what ideas were his.... but id still hold his jacket.

Just as a sidenote, I read the other day that Avril's song 'Sk8ter Boi', which I *might* have actually given a listen had it been spelled correctly, is apparently going to be made into a movie. That's disgusting.

Oh crap, that's just retarded. Everyone knows there is only room for one teen musical, and that will be "From Justin to Kelly" (which I can't wait to rent, by the way...for the awfulness of it). I actually found an all Avril magazine at Hastings and I flipped through it. I think she's a robot programmed to open her mouth really wide and give the devil horns whenever a camera is near...

oh my god! i hate them! i hate them all!

why couldn't they stay in their territory of teen puke land? they sucked, but at least they weren't trying to invade on us to taint and mock the greatness of punk rock.


you remember in goonies when chunk tells his secrets about pretending to vomit on people at the movies?


. . .i think i might have to go see sk8ter boi, or however the fuck its spelled.

i am editing this post now bc i just went to the link.
i have been forced to listen to this song at work, and it turns out, ive been giving avril way too much credit all along. i thought she was talking about a girl who dumpoed her boyfriend bc he was a lazy ass slacker. i was like, "way to go, at least she's showing young grrrrls that they don't have to settle"
come to find out, thats not what the song is about at all! and it has a much more disturbing "message". this is a "teen anthem"??!

ok, done now.

(Edited by stalker on skates at 5:38 pm on May. 29, 2003)

how pathetic. theres the two girls who go to my scholl who everyone calles Avril and Avril 2 (which they get pissed if you call them Avril), they want to be like Avril sooo bad, and it's sooooo pathetic.

I think Avril is really cute in a weird way. I think its her voice, which I'm sure isn't what she's going for. Her songs definitely don't help her out, though.

I wish that she had not kick-started the whole "wearing a tie with a t-shirt" thing. I hate her for it. But as Brother Love says, "It lets us know who's with us...and who's against us." PS - I hate faux punks.

i heard from an odd source that Billy Gillman actually does the singing on her albums...

He turned 15 the other day, so his career might be on halt for a little while. Puberty's a bitch.

i have never been more grossed out by anyone's teeth in my life than billy whatever......but i'm guessing i'm still remembering the "before braces" days, but man, gross........bleck.

i would never go out and buy her cd's, but there are certain avril songs that i don't mind listening to on the radio, but the radio is mostly full of crap anyway, so ultimately i prefer my cd player........which by the way has no avril, justin timberlake, or anything.....ben folds is my listening pleasure along with the cardigans

(Edited by sideponytails at 10:46 am on May. 30, 2003)

Sweet! This world needs more chicks like you. You are a chick, right?

By the way, does anyone know if Ben Folds still lives on Belmont Blvd.? I heard he's recording with John Mark Painter, so I assume he's still around.

Last I heard, he was involved in a project with Ben Kweller and Ben Lee called "the Bens," which I'll bet is really cool. Man, I want to join that fucking band.

I live on Belmont (no stalkers please!) and I haven't seen him in awhile. I never did figure out exactly where he lived, but I would randomly see him on my street...like the circle K and such. I'll keep you posted!

I so agree with u! I had to pick my little sister up from the high school on DRESS UP day this year! and It was horrible! I went in there to get her an all I saw was boys and girls with t-shirts and ties it was horrible.. I think I was in the Twighlight Zone I was like damn u avril... that was when she had put that single out to I think.

I had several students who wore ties that way, and it never really bothers me. Because I wear a tie to school almost every day, they would come to me and ask me to tie it for them. It made me feel fatherly.

A pleasure about which I do not feel guilty involves school. I'll never see those nihilist brats EVER AGAIN, and so anything they've ever done that annoys me absolutely DOESN"T MATTER. The other thing is that I can get a job this summer if I want one...or I can just go to the pool again this afternoon...

Thanks. Wow, Ben Folds and Wonder Woman live on the same street! Crazy!

Yeah, I heard about the Bens project, too, but was thinking that had already been recorded. Maybe it's one in the same.

I've recently read up on all this, and I believe the "The Bens" Ep or whatever is finished and now he's working on a new solo thing. But I could be mistaken.
i have freakin' yet to see Ben Folds anywhere in nashville. And I am obviously a Folds fan. I'll just settle on seeing my next favorite Ben tomorrow night at Slow Bar.

Oh, your good friend Ben Dover? You take it like a fucking bitch don't you? Don't lie.

(Edited by richarddawson at 2:58 pm on May. 30, 2003)

Yes, I'd have to say that's just another one of my not-so-guilty pleasures.

And the topic comes full circle. Thanks for playing.

(Edited by carligula at 4:53 pm on May. 30, 2003)

am i suddenly participating in retard hour?

Being sunburned is a guilty pleasure of mine. I got burned yesterday, and that reminded me. I love that red glow you get...it makes you look so healthy...but I feel guilty because I know how terrible it is for my skin.

I agree. I rarely get full blown sunburned but I love when I get the redness across my nose and cheeks.

God, I'm glad you cleared that up for me, Carligula. I just could not figure out what the new poster's name was. I kept saying "I'm one DOOR woman". Well, I feel a little stupid right now.

I read it as "I'm One Doctor Woman"

Geez, it must just be the geekazoid in me, but I always got it as Wonder Woman...but oddly enough, I still can't figure out most license plates.

Haha I love trying to figure those out! I decided I'm going to get one that makes just enough sense that people sound it out and try to figure it out but thats not actually a phrase.

Looks like we might need to start a whole new topic on this one. This is the second time since im1drwoman joined last week that we've had this discussion.

Oh, sorry, I missed that.

If there's any living child I hate more than the Pepsi girl, it's Billy Gilman. Remember when his face was plastered all over Music Row a few years back? I LIVED on 17th then, so I had to suffer through it every damn day. foldsfan, if I come back to Nashville anytime soon, you can join me on my stalker quest to see Ben again.

(Edited by Lauren at 9:40 am on Jun. 2, 2003)

Aww... you gonna leave me out like that?

Sounds like my kind of date.

The Anna Nicole Show

I see what you mean here. She completely grosses me out and makes me shudder every time I see her, but I find I am compelled to watch at least a few minutes of her show while I flip channels.

I remedied my addiction to television by disconnecting my cable this weekend. Now I'm sure I will just transfer my addiction to watching movies all summer.

This has already been the case for me. I've watched 4/6 of the first batch of Star Trek movies (the good ones). I'll watch the rest of them for the first time, as well as watch 5 Star Wars and some Back to the Future, MST3K, Pride & Predjudice (IheartToken), Futurama...this summer will be busy after all. With all that, it may begin to feel like a guilty pleasure.

I know...threesomes with carligula are one of my favorite pasttimes.

...*GULP*...

(Edited by carligula at 7:02 pm on Jun. 2, 2003)