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The show must go on 3 [17.65%]
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TOPIC: Hmm...
Posted  Monday, September 29, 2003 at 6:10 PM
Post 1 of 18
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Law Passed to Block Public Suicide
Band Wanted to Stage Right-to-Die Protest


ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (Sept. 29) - The St. Petersburg city council passed a law Monday designed to scuttle a rock group's plans to feature an onstage suicide.

The hard-rock band Hell on Earth had said that a suicide by a terminally ill person would take place during a concert Saturday to raise awareness of right-to-die issues.

In response, the city council met Monday morning to unanimously approve an emergency ordinance making it illegal to conduct a suicide for commercial or entertainment purposes, and to host, promote and sell tickets for such an event.

"While I still think it's a publicity stunt, we still couldn't sit idly by and let somebody lose their life," council member Bill Foster said.

Tampa-based Hell on Earth, known for such outrageous onstage stunts as chocolate syrup wrestling and grinding up live rats in a blender, created the furor by announcing the suicide would happen Saturday at the Palace Theater in downtown St. Petersburg.

But the theater's owner, David Hundley, promptly canceled the band's show, and another venue also turned away the event.

Band leader Billy Tourtelot has vowed that the concert and suicide will still take place at an undisclosed location in the city, broadcast live on the band's Web site.

"This show is far more than a typical Hell On Earth performance," Tourtelot said in an e-mail last week. "This is about standing up for what you believe in, and I am a strong supporter of physician-assisted suicide."

A message left for Tourtelot was not immediately returned Monday.

A Florida law already makes assisting in a suicide manslaughter, a second-degree felony.

Hell on Earth is playing clubs in support of its independently produced album, "All Things Disturbingly Sassy."
Posted  Monday, September 29, 2003 at 6:28 PM
Post 2 of 18
That's so fucked up, man. Wanting to have someone die onstage during your show?!!! Are you kidding me?

Who would pay money to see that?!!!
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Posted  Monday, September 29, 2003 at 6:34 PM
Post 3 of 18
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 29, 2003 at 6:28 PM"
Who would pay money to see that?!!!
Only if it was an Uncle Kracker concert and Kracker was the victim.

Oh, and very clever choices there, dickie.

(Edited by carligula at 6:35 pm on Sep. 29, 2003)
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Posted  Monday, September 29, 2003 at 6:37 PM
Post 4 of 18
"Quote from jamiecarroll on Sep. 29, 2003 at 6:28 PM"
That's so fucked up, man.  Wanting to have someone die onstage during your show?!!!  Are you kidding me?

Who would pay money to see that?!!!
I agree. I'm all for people doing what they want to do with their life, but I completely understand why no venue would sponsor this. And with the rats, I'm sure PETA really loves these guys.

And, thanks Carl.

(Edited by richarddawson at 6:38 pm on Sep. 29, 2003)
Posted  Monday, September 29, 2003 at 7:05 PM
Post 5 of 18
That's sick. If the guy wants to commit suicide, he should do it at home, not in public. The article didn't say how he plans to do it, did it? You couldn't pay me to go see that show.

This reminds me of this one morning when I was eating breakfast with this family in Guatemala only to look up and see an execution being broadcast on their television. I had to leave the table.
Posted  Monday, September 29, 2003 at 8:56 PM
Post 6 of 18
I'm torn on this...

I think that the band and the suicide victim (I'm not sure what the correct term for someone who wants to committ suicide is, exactly) should be allowed to express themselves, and I'm not really sure that writing and passing legislation to stop it is something I agree with.

However, this is a particularly horrid gesture. I seriously doubt that the main objective of this band is to raise awareness.... I know people feel strongly about assisted-suicide, but if this is to raise awareness of anything.. it's just that the members of Hell on Earth are hardasses..

It's a bit extreme, don't ya think?
Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 6:05 AM
Post 7 of 18
Yeah, i can see if it were a mom who wanted to kill an unborn child, but not an adult. Come on, is society that unfeeling and immoral that they would watch something like this? I keep my killing to kids. Small kids. Helpless kids. Silent kids. And in an operating room out of the public's eye, at least.
Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 7:54 AM
Post 8 of 18
Assisted Suicide- I think the idea of it is representative of the state of mind some have acquired in America. It's passing off responsibility to someone else. Here, you do it.

The legislation does border on intrusive and stifling what some would consider "art". I haven't made up my mind on that, yet. As I was thinking about it, Faces of Death came to mind. Might that kind of death as exhibition come up in a piece of legislation? What about showing murder in movies? I am a little frightened about where our freedoms are going these days.

I may not agree with what other people do, but as long as it is not harming another person, it should be fair game. Assisted suicide- harming another person. of course, self defense is another thing. Now if a quadriplegic was brandishing a knife in his mouth and mumbling threats at innocent humans, terminate him.
Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 9:34 AM
Post 9 of 18
While I understand that euthanasia is an ideal held close to some people's hearts, having someone commit suicide on stage is quite medieval and gruesome. There's no need for that.
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Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 1:40 PM
Post 10 of 18
If you have to hire someone else to kill you because you don't want to do it yourself, then you obviously don't really want to die that badly.
Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 1:47 PM
Post 11 of 18
"Quote from Craig T. Nelson on Sep. 30, 2003 at 1:40 PM"
If you have to hire someone else to kill you because you don't want to do it yourself, then you obviously don't really want to die that badly.
You're joking, I assume. Just in case you're not-- 9 times out of 10, you're hiring someone who is a professional who can perform the procedure in the most painless way possible. Suicide can end up very painful and messy-- especially if you fail. Many people who opt for euthanasia are too feeble or ill to effectively do it themselves. I would say the opposite-- if you're going out of the way to hire someone to kill you and bypass the risk of screwing it up yourself, the you obviously want to die. That's just how I see it.
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Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 2:36 PM
Post 12 of 18
"Quote from carligula on Sep. 30, 2003 at 12:47 PM"
Many people who opt for euthanasia are too feeble or ill to effectively do it themselves.
feeble is my middle name.
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Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 5:01 PM
Post 13 of 18
"Quote from damon on Sep. 30, 2003 at 1:36 PM"
feeble is my middle name.
Really??? Weiner is mine! Maybe we should start a band...



Maybe the Features could stage a show where there's an abortion on stage. If it were an abortion of twins, they could play "Two by Two."
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Posted  Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 11:59 PM
Post 14 of 18
"Quote from YaDaDaDa on Sep. 30, 2003 at 5:01 PM"
Maybe the Features could stage a show where there's an abortion on stage. If it were an abortion of twins, they could play "Two by Two."
Would there be shop-vacs involved? If so, I know some people that could probably cut the band a fairly good deal.
Posted  Wednesday, October 1, 2003 at 6:19 AM
Post 15 of 18
I would doubt that. I figured the doctor would hold up the two fetuses while they played "That's the Way It's Meant to Be."



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Posted  Wednesday, October 1, 2003 at 3:47 PM
Post 16 of 18
yeah... uh... wow... blink.gif sad.gif
you're everybody's second home
always trying to get me alone
an easy way to lose it all
always there when all else fails
over by the west side rails
Posted  Friday, October 3, 2003 at 10:28 AM
Post 17 of 18
ok, THAT's really fucked up. although i have read about another guy who threatened to kil himself on stage at a show on halloween. so of course, no one would book him. then one club finally did. and guess what... he's dead now.

if you feel strongly about euthanasia, there are several more tactful ways to exhibit your beliefs.
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Posted  Friday, October 3, 2003 at 10:57 AM
Post 18 of 18
"Quote from stalker on skates on Oct. 3, 2003 at 10:28 AM"
i have read about another guy who threatened to kil himself on stage at a show on halloween. so of course, no one would book him. then one club finally did. and guess what... he's dead now.
Are you talking about G.G Alin?
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