yet people still read this!!!!!!lame!!!!!!lurve sucks!!!!!

(Edited by whofan at 2:31 pm on Feb. 7, 2004)

'Who' the fuck asked you? If I'd known that this was some sort of springboard on which we are supposed to place advertisements I would have started plugging the bands that I am in a long time ago. Also, your grammar sucks. Go make your own goddamned web page.

i happen to like lurve. what kind of stick is your ass neuboy??

Harsh, neuboy. If other forums can be turned into one on one discussions of Eno & Bowie, I think it's ok to tell people about other local music. Might be more appropriate in the 'stirring up conversation' section, though.

Then again, singing a song called 'the mexican' makes Lurve seem suspiciously like a front for Pat Buchanan et al...

Well, I took the time to listen to them and they are just another dime a dozen local band.  It's a shame that someone would try to ride the coattails of The Features because they don't deserve to be mentioned along side of them.  As long as The Features are looked at as a local band (due in part to the preference of local/independent bands of the majority of their fans), they will go nowhere.

While I'm on it, I don't see any influence from the bands on their info list (including the misspelled ones).  You would figure a band would want to look professional if they are going to go through the trouble of being on mp3.com.

aw
riverdale high school class of 98.

blah blah blah.....who cares

(Edited by lurvebadboy at 2:28 pm on Feb. 7, 2004)

Of course I'm not impressed by your speech or your opinions (one of which, ironically, is that I am too opinionated).  It's pretty foolish to suggest that I am insecure (about which you do not mention) because it doesn't have anything to do with, well, anything.  You are correct in your assumption that I can't play anything and have lots of vinyl.  I have no desire to be in a band.  However, as a self-educated musical cognoscenti, I am very qualified to conclude what is innovative, artistic, and skillful.  Lurve does not come close to qualifing.  Dime a dozen.

So, let's see.  Cheap Trick (good for two years) is listening to you (on a daily basis I'm sure) and thinking (nothing absolute) about signing you to their new (uh oh) label (band turn label owner *cough*).  Something is happening with RCA?  Show me a successful album with RCA and I'll eat crow.

I could care less about anyone's opinion on a local band.  Why do you care about mine?  Come back when you're a musical icon.

Oh my God!

I was unsure about your band, Lurve, but now that you've dropped those names, I am completely convinced that you guys are incredible!  If you have those kinds of connections, you WILL make it, I'm sure!

Here's a tip: Stick to making your music and don't worry about what people are saying about your band.  You cannot believe how much like Fred Durst it makes you sound when you come into another band's message board to 'defend' yourself by namedropping and slinging insults.

Also, furthuring your mastery of the English language and its rules of grammar will go a long way toward earning you respect in the world of internet message boards.

dude, who's the guy with that hat in the picture of the band?

LMFAOsadjkflkasdjrklsdjfdskkdfjasfkdljdsjf

Rhinestone - Looks like Pablo Picasso hiding back there.  They're all wearing black.  Am I suppose to be scared?

Jamie - That was just too harsh.  Oh, and I use to know a girl named Jamie Carroll but she thought a cat was a dog.

Everyone - Did you noticed they linked to the features and self webpage from their mp3 site.  Can you say 'coattails'?

Read these two emails I got [My comments in brackets]:

toodark@bellsouth.net

Hi,
Just wanted to thank you for starting controversy on the features message board about my band. We appreciate the bad publicity. [it's all they'll ever get] Because you started all this crap, people have been listening to our band. All you've done is helped us out. [they have two 'huge' record deals and i've helped them out?] By the way, your top 100 list is a joke. Dirty Mind over Pet Sounds? Hah!!!!!!!!!!! [he is referring to my top 100 favorite albums on my web page.  he is obviously unable to differentiate my favorites from what i think is best] By the way, could you be a little more childish insulting someone about their grammer? [grammar] You apparently are nothing more than a self-righteous little prick who has no idea what it is to be in a rock band. Give it a shot sometime and you'll see what a pain in the ass you wanna-be rock 'critics' are. At least we are doing what we love. We happen to like both the Features and Self so we linked them to our webpage. What's wrong with that? We do not want to ride anybody's coattails and I think that is an extremely naive comment to make considering you obviously don't know us or you wouldn't have made that statement. It must be nice to sit on your ass all day and listen to PRE-1987 vinyl and critique every new band that comes out. Hope you enjoy your pathetic existence. You obviously don't know what it means to play music. It comes from your heart, the real guys anyway who are not just out to make a buck. [zzzzz] Apparently, you don't have one. So go on and continue in your quest to find the true meaning of Stairway to Heaven. Why am I even wasting my time with you????? [why did he waste his time with that last half of conjecture]


petsound@bellsouth.net (brock sharp)

hey Brian Eno,
       I just thought i would write to you and say hey your a music moron.I doubt seriously you get half the bands you listen to.I also bet you have no idea what they are talking about .You probably started listening to them so you could look a certain way. [i've always wanted to look like michael jackson] Thats the way most indie rockers start their trends.First of all I don't know you i know your attitude.It is called insecurity and thats what most people who put things down are insecure.Call up your psycholigist and make an appointment .He will tell you the same thing i just did. [then why does a psychologist make $50/hour?] Second,I didn't start anything that was up there on the board.I thought it was a nice thing someone did.You just wanted to be a dick and stick your two sense in. [i cents he's angry at me]
The pic you made fun of we all didn't wear black.Call our good photo buddy Chuck Brenner (very talented guy i must say)if we were wearing it or was it the lighting.He will say the lighting .Wait a minute you are to stupid and a fucking pussy to do that. [lol] Third and most importantly our music and riding coat tails.We are  friends with some of the features I know Roger ,Jason knows Parrish and Drew knows Matt and his wife.I am friends with some of the members of Self.I used to help out at Spongebath throughout the years.I don't care what you think of our music.Someone who limits their music as much as you is a musical idiot.Do you ever listen to Jazz or new stuff like pavement or the Strokes. [did the guy bother to read my cd inventory?] Which by the way are signed to RCA and are selling pretty well.So big man you talked all the shit .Lets see if you can back it up .What is your name ?If i see you in a bar or anything i wanna see if you will say it to my face.You can type it so i guess you could say it to me in person. i will be honest with you .I would knock you on your ass.I am actually a nice guy and i love people .i  just hate germs.Its ok to be lonely and sad .That is what you are.

Love always,
[ladies and gentlemen, the most pathetic person on the planet]
Brock

Why am I not surprised that those e-mail would get posted. He must feel better about himself for sharing with the world what me and my lead singer wanted to share with HIM and him alone. That's okay. I meant every word I said and so did Brock. We aren't trying to start a war or anything. But being insulted sucks, especially about something you spend a year of your life pouring your heart into.

Your insults and threats are childish.  Your comments are illogical.  Your preaching and lecturing are boring.  Your grammar and decision making processes make you look unprofessional.  You cannot carry a debate.  You change the subject when convenient.  You look VERY foolish calling me insecure when you feel the need to defend yourself on this board (anyone notice how many times the features were threatened by my comments?).  Your band is not relevant.

I apologize if this thread has made anyone angry.  This is the last I will speak on the subject regardless of what happens.

This will also be the last thing I post. The whole thing that got us started was your naive assumptions that we were riding the coattails of other bands (which we are not). Maybe you shouldn't assume things about people that you have no right assuming. Anger leads to bad debate. Sorry if my comments came out a little scattered. I don't give a damn whether or not you think my band is relevant. That is a personal choice for every listener to make. I do not however appreciate personal attacks on myself or anyone in my band. And the coattails thing, I consider an attack.

Sorry to everyone on this message board for this ridiculous argument. This is both our faults and I'll gladly take just as much blame for it.

blah blah blah ......who cares?

(Edited by lurvebadboy at 2:29 pm on Feb. 7, 2004)

I am offended that more barbed comments have not been thrown my way. I believe I was the one that instigated this whole thing to begin with, not eno. I have not heard your band, nor do I have any desire to. Perhaps you boys are good; perhaps not. I am a musician, not just some horder of vinyl, so I feel that I have license to criticize if I choose. But I didn't criticize your band at all. I criticized your asinine decision to post an advertisement for your band, who may or may not be legitimate, on someone else's message board. I think that is bullshit. As far as all these other bands that we are always talking about, well maybe you guys are right. Maybe this should be strictly features and nothing else. I apologize if I started a shit-storm, but there is only so much room for opportunism in music, and I don't appreciate it.

[i cents he's angry at me]

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!

I don't want to perpetuate this disagreement, but I feel that I must state my opinion; all you 'bad boys' can take it or leave it.  I don't know if this band Lurve is good or not, I have not and will not take the time to listen to their recordings.  And I don't necessarily think that they are trying to ride the coattails of the Features (wasn't it a fan of theirs who posted said 'advertisement' anyway?).  I just think that they have a hell of a lot to learn about being in a band and about being adults.  Unless you guys *want* to be Oasis that badly, you should stop taking it personally and picking fights whenever someone criticizes your band.  Be artists, be men, be whatever you want to call it, and just let people's opinions lie.  You sound like 8th graders, calling people pussies, and whatnot.  Mr. Eno2 was correct when he said that if anyone is acting insecure here, it is Lurve.  Grow up!

personally, i have no problem with these guys (or fans) posting stuff about their band on the site. and i would even think that the features camp and upper management feel the same. there needs to be some sense of community in the whole nashville/murfereesboro music scene. it seems to lend itself to bad mouthing and competetive attitudes. i mean look at the whole elephant 6 thing, or the glory days of spongebath, even the seattle movement; these all involved groups of bands with like minded goals and styles that, on some level, found success. now i'm not saying that i'm putting lurve and the features anywhere close to one another. i, unlike probably most of you, took ten minutes out of my day and gave this band a chance. sure, i didn't like it, thought it was completely unoriginal and poorly produced, but that's not the point. the point is that we, as fans of music, should welcome new groups and identities into this whole scene, giving them at least one shot at winning us over, whether that is in a live context or via mp3.com. have we become so jaded that we won't give a listen to something because we don't find it ourselves (smithson's syndrome)? perhaps if lurve cited influences a bit more obtuse that weezer (say neu or early roxy music) you'd give them a chance. then again maybe not. sorry to post this, this thread should be ended, i just wanted to play devils advocate.

Yes, this thread should definitely be ended, but thelawnwrangler made some excellent points that I want to support. I am always happy to hear about new or unsigned bands local or otherwise. It makes sense that The Features don't want to be viewed as strictly a 'local' band, but the fact remains that a large portion of their fanbase is here in TN, and it also seems to make sense that this is a natural place for discussions about local bands to pop up if for no other reason than not many local bands have snazzy web sites with message boards.

To the guys in Lurve: I listened to your mp3s, but I'll send you my critique privately. In the meantime, don't let the critics take the piss. They're entitled to their opinions. It seems to me like a monumental waste of time and energy for them to post such mean-spirited and unconstructive responses, but they're perfectly entitled to do that too. You may not have hit your audience here, but obviously some people like you so keep on keeping on. I just had to throw in my too sense...see, ok that was mean, but I couldn't resist. I mean it in the nicest possible way.

Spongebath had 'Glory Days'?  How many records had national distribution?  ONE!!

excuse me while i promptly remove my tongue from my cheek

Wrangler, I don't think that your tounge was in cheek, nor do I think that it sould have been.  Spongebath sure as hell had 'glory days.'  I don't think that glory days has anything to do with national distribution or record sales or material success of any kind.  All I know is, for a while, there was a LOT of good music coming out of M'boro on that label - Self, FlOz, and the Features alone were enough to make me wet my pants.  Three bands that good in one city on one label = glorious indeed.

i have to agree with you 100%. spongebath yes has gone under, but when they were going, especially in the middle of their short span, they were kicking ass.

WHOA!
no one is in attack mode 'round here are they?
ya know, what if that band didn't suck?
then you'd all be sorry fer writtin all that aggressive shit.
why would anyone here not want to get turned on to new music?

This entire thread has truly cracked me up. It makes me want to say something inflammatory ... but I'll refrain. By the way, is everyone familiar with the word 'troll' in internet terms?

Just wanted to revive yet another classic thread. This is probably my favorite one since the beginning. Shows the pure genius of Eno and the rest of the veterans. I am, however, disappointed that my witty remarks have somehow disappeared from the thread. If nothing else, I clearly remember responding to Toodark's "Anger leads to bad debate" with "no, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to the dark side" but I guess the administrators deemed that joke irrelevant. In fact, digging through the archives, a lot of my old posts have gone the way of Elliott. But I digress. Read through this classic thread and enjoy.

And by the way, anyone know what happened to Lurve? Has RCA signed them? Are they opening for Cheap Trick? Are they touring with Senyru?

I just looked at the lurve page of MP3.com. No wonder they suck. Just listen to some of the song titles: "Friendly game of Chess"??? "Mannequin Esophagus"(my personal favorite title)????

that was damn funny, keith. thank you for resurrecting it.

(Edited by ray davies at 12:57 am on Oct. 2, 2002)

Yes, Keith, this one was well-appreciated. Thank you.

Also one of my favorites- and I remember you replying- what's up with that? Maybe neuboy & brianeno2 never retired, maybe they were "disappeared". Maybe you're next? Send us a communique in code if you get abducted by the board administrators.

I recommend telepathy over smoke signals, for given my environment (L.A.) I don't think I would notice the extra haze.

brianeno2 left before i arrived
that makes me sad

was this the board's first official bitch fight? i think it was.

good times.

I personally enjoy how whofan and lurvebadboy share the same writing style, inlcuding errors. He could have at least typed in all caps as lurvebadboy. Puhlease.

(Edited by foldsfan at 10:50 am on Oct. 3, 2002)

Someone who has the same sense of humor as me, that was the first thing I noticed.... but I am going to listen to one or two songs to see what they sound like, I'm in search of different music right now.

I'm not sure if "different" is the appropriate word...

so who are they trying to be like, I downloaded on of the MP3's but I couldn't get it to play for some reason....

Of all the little tizzies like this the board has faced, my favorite will always be the one started by FeaturesRNotSoGood.

I remember half-way reading the board when all this was developing. I didn't have regular computer access, which is why I was posting very irregularly at the very beginning. What happened to N. Mike and Neuboy?

Mike lost his phone line and lost all contact with everyone. I'll probably see him tomorrow, though.

I owe everyone on the Features message board an apology. I used to tell people you guys/gals were uptight, snobbish, cliquey, up the Features asses indie rock retards, but now I realize you are quite emotional and sensitve human beings.

Is that sarcasm?

Forget that, what's up with his font?

(Edited by DigsySlattery at 3:48 pm on Oct. 10, 2002)

Thank you.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 10:18 pm on Oct. 10, 2002)

Yes, thank you very much. I now feel validated as a human being.

P.S. Fonts = Fun!

no big, odd, or colorful fonts!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is a message board, not rainbow gathering.

i dont like these futuristic newfangled fonts with all the crazy colors and whatnot, give me times new roman 12 point anyday. i sound like such an old rickety man...

i, being quite emotional and sensitive, thank you while wiping the tear from my eye.

BITCH

I'm all those things.