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TOPIC: RIM anyone?
Posted  Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 9:48 PM
Post 1 of 25
Does anybody know someone that works for an actual record label?
By this I mean ANYBODY that works in the building that might know the names of some important people?

If not.. maybe you could point me in the direction of an MTSU RIM grad who can't find a job? or maybe one that works at McDonald's?

I would be forever grateful and in the debt of anyone who helps me!
Posted  Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 9:51 PM
Post 2 of 25
My mom is best friends with Luke Lewis' (ex)wife. A lot of my brother's friends work for him too. Wait, so you need a job from these people or what?
You're so fucking money you don't even know it
Posted  Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 9:58 PM
Post 3 of 25
No, nothing like that.. I'm doing a project for school
Posted  Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 9:58 PM
Post 4 of 25
haha...what would anybody want with a RIM student like me?
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 9:59 PM
Post 5 of 25
Oh okay, well then I think I can help you out.
You're so fucking money you don't even know it
Posted  Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 10:10 PM
Post 6 of 25
Try the Renaissance Hotel downtown....
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?
- W.C. Fields
Posted  Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 12:36 AM
Post 7 of 25
"Quote from damon on Apr. 2, 2003 at 9:58 PM"
haha...what would anybody want with a RIM student like me?
exactly......me too.
Posted  Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 12:50 AM
Post 8 of 25
"Quote from mike_D on Apr. 2, 2003 at 10:10 PM"
Try the Renaissance Hotel downtown....
you beat me to it fool.

pm me and i might can point you in the right direction.
You know you have problems, with both money and alcohol, when you find yourself shoving beers down your pants outside a Features show.
-jbc
Posted  Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 12:55 PM
Post 9 of 25
i know a RIM grad that works at a bank (can't find an "industry" job), if that is any help?
Posted  Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 1:38 PM
Post 10 of 25
I know a few people who do rim jobs for free, but they never even graduated high school. Maybe with a college degree, they could start charging. Just goes to show you, get your education, kids.

(Edited by foldsfan at 1:39 pm on Apr. 3, 2003)
Posted  Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 2:27 PM
Post 11 of 25
"Quote from foldsfan on Apr. 3, 2003 at 1:38 PM"
I know a few people who do rim jobs for free
Some people have to pay quite a bit of money to get a rim job.

(Edited by Tom Foolery at 2:28 pm on Apr. 3, 2003)
grass stains, airplanes, anything and everything
Posted  Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 10:51 PM
Post 12 of 25
"Quote from foldsfan on Apr. 3, 2003 at 1:38 PM"
I know a few people who do rim jobs for free...
Do you know their phone numbers? ZIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNG!

Tom beat me to the punch, and I can't tell if foldsfan was joking or not, but I had to say it anyway.

(Edited by mike_D at 10:52 pm on Apr. 3, 2003)
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?
- W.C. Fields
Posted  Friday, April 4, 2003 at 1:15 AM
Post 13 of 25
Jackpot! All of these things would be excellent...

Daman and Ray Davies.. please share your situation with me!

Smee... that's exactly what I had in mind, I will send you a message to find out more info if that's cool.

Thank you all for your cooperation.. I am much obliged.
Posted  Friday, April 4, 2003 at 1:16 AM
Post 14 of 25
"Quote from weenysmack on Apr. 4, 2003 at 1:15 AM"

Damon and Ray Davies.. please share your situation with me!
well....what do you want to know?
Posted  Friday, April 4, 2003 at 1:20 AM
Post 15 of 25
hmmm...i just applied for candidacy in the RIM department. i'm minoring in spanish, taking french, thinking about political science , and wondering about my the second minor that i'm required to get. i'm not very good at rim jobs, or so ray davies tells me, so i figure i should broaden my field a bit. wink.gif

(ray and i aren't grads just yet. we still run up and down the halls with water guns)

(Edited by damon at 1:23 am on Apr. 4, 2003)
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Friday, April 4, 2003 at 1:44 AM
Post 16 of 25
i'm disillusioned with the whole RIM department and some of the teachers at the university who do not know what the hell they are talking about.

for example, i had the head of the music department at MTSU try to tell me that the beatles last album was "sgt. pepper's lonely hearts club band" and that it was released in 1972. im dead serious. damon had the exact same guy.

i would much rather write music reviews than work in the industry, but i'll probably continue with RIM courses anyways.....

(Edited by ray davies at 2:06 am on Apr. 4, 2003)
Posted  Friday, April 4, 2003 at 1:46 AM
Post 17 of 25
"Quote from ray davies on Apr. 4, 2003 at 1:44 AM"
for example, i had the head of the music department at MTSU try to tell me that the beatles last album was "sgt. pepper's lonely hearts club band" and that it was released in 1972. im dead serious. damon had the exact same guy.
That guy sucks. I believe I got a little mad and had a few words with him when he mentioned it in my class.

(Edited by Sexy Sadie at 1:48 am on Apr. 4, 2003)
But what will happen to the boy when the circus comes to town?
Posted  Friday, April 4, 2003 at 1:52 AM
Post 18 of 25
my dad said that people didn't need a college degree to get a rim job when he was growing up... unsure.gif
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Saturday, April 5, 2003 at 2:59 AM
Post 19 of 25
didn't they do that song "what's the frequency kenneth?"
TEDDY RUXPIN
Posted  Saturday, April 5, 2003 at 11:50 AM
Post 20 of 25
My RIM 419 class, the MIDI one, is the biggest waste of my time and money ever. The teacher just reads off of another teacher's web site. And the web site is full of horrible grammatical and speeling errors that really bug me. He doesn't explain things fully then his tests are very specific. It is so frustrating.
Posted  Sunday, April 6, 2003 at 1:24 AM
Post 21 of 25
Briggs, I understand what you mean. there are professors who really don't give a shit abd some who have no idea what they're talking about. the coolest RIM/Mass Media professor i've had thus far has been John Dougan. That guy really knows his shit. From writing in the All Music Guide to speaking at the RnR Hall of Fame, I greatly respect his input.
We'll miss you Mr. Hooper.
Posted  Sunday, April 6, 2003 at 7:48 AM
Post 22 of 25
"Quote from damon on Apr. 6, 2003 at 1:24 AM"
the coolest RIM/Mass Media professor i've had thus far has been John Dougan. That guy really knows his shit. From writing in the All Music Guide to speaking at the RnR Hall of Fame, I greatly respect his input.
he also wrote all of the post-punk/garage rock/obscuro entries in the All Music Guide to Rock. he wrote the gang of four entry as well the yo la tengo entry among others. coolest fucking teacher on the planet.
Posted  Monday, April 7, 2003 at 10:21 AM
Post 23 of 25
"Quote from damon on Apr. 6, 2003 at 1:24 AM"
the coolest RIM/Mass Media professor i've had thus far has been John Dougan. That guy really knows his shit. From writing in the All Music Guide to speaking at the RnR Hall of Fame, I greatly respect his input.
i don't think he taught when i was a student. my favorite professor was always matthew o'brien.
Posted  Monday, April 7, 2003 at 1:18 PM
Post 24 of 25
No, Dougan did not teach at MTSU when you were there, smee. He's a great guy and has some good stories. He knows more about music than anybody in the program. Fischer knows a lot but not as much as Dougan. I have to admit though, as far as music business is concerned, I learned the most from Matt O'Brien. He's a good guy who can relate to kids and the "real" music world and knows a lot about the business. he's also helped out a lot of students with their music careers.

My thoughts on the RIM program, now that I'm an alum, are mixed. I definitely think that you get out of it what you put in. Students are given lots of opportunities to make contacts and get (relatively) hands on experience. On the other hand, I do think that the RIM program is turning into a factory, producing like-minded kids who graduate without any creativity and an inability to think outside of the Nashville box. The instructors would like you to believe that shmoozing, not good ears and music taste, is the most important factor in making it the biz. They can teach you how to be trendy and who to hangout with and where and how to hype the shit out of somebody, but the sad fact is if you don't already have a NATURAL sense of this stuff (or a sense of how to see through the bullshit) BEFORE you go into it, you're just going to end up like every other mid-level kiss-ass industry exec (unless of course your willing to fuck or suck your way up).

Nowhere is this more apparent than in the production side where most of the instructors and virtually all of the students are clueless to the most influencial and seminal aspects of the industry. I can't tell you how many "studio" classes i had with kids who had never heard of Phil Spector or Brian Wilson for chrissakes! The building blocks of the industry! I'm not joking! Or conversely, kids who had never heard the ramones, never heard the kinks, or would say shit like "i don't like rap" in reference to hip-hop in general.

Of course, its not a crime to be uneducated on music history. Some people come from one-horse towns void of outside culture. But thats where the RIM program is supposed to come in and they fall pretty flat.

Look, I could go on and on about this but this is already too long. Ironically, I'm writing this as I look out into the lobby of the Renaissance, full of pseudo-hip Contemporary Christian Music executives, all kissing ass and hyping themselves in that fake LA facade. They definitely put the Contemporary into Christian Music. This room embodies all that is wrong with music today, secular or christian or whatever. Jesus, I wanna puke (no pun intended). Is this the fate of RIM graduates?


Now I'm gonna go listen to some Joy Division...
"Is this what you want you want to do with your life, man? Suck down peppermint schnapps and try to call Morocco at 2 in the morning?"
Posted  Tuesday, April 8, 2003 at 11:14 AM
Post 25 of 25
I used to love GMA, they had some good artists come out and play in the day.