This is pretty standard fair.. what is everyone listening to right now?

I've got some Kent playing currently but the new Dismemberment Plan has been treating me nicely.

Michael

Devo - Freedom Of Choice
Genesis - Abacab

new dplan? nice

this past week i've been listening to...
the microphones, black rebel motorcycle club, cave in, and the faint.

~sinasugarsick

bionic finger - big dick
free kitten - teenie weenie boppie
as darkness is your shelter (old goth song)
hissyfits - superstar

what the hell kinda bands are those?

eh, just kidding.  i'm not much on independent/local bands.  guess i should be willing to give some a try sometime.

xtc-skylarking
wilco-yankee foxtrot hotel (as yet to be released)
gil scott-heron-the relolution will not be televised
soft boys-underwater moonlight
just to name a few

ok how about -

beulah - if we can land a man on the moon surely i cna win your heart
the promise ring - jersey shore
c love - all the drugs
buckingham nicks - crying in the night
heart - barracuda

I've actually heard the promise ring (not by choice really). I didn't care for them. I'll see what Morpheus thinks of the rest.

try and get beulah - they really remind me of the features, even if they are more poppy.

but i wouldnt bother dloading the other stuff im listening too. i have weird taste. no one likes my stuff except for me. sad but true.

Well I dowloaded Beulah and was moderately impressed. Good for an independent band I think. Of course I put indy bands on a lower standard. I would rather spend my money on a Stones album I don't own.

well yeah, but it all works out because
you BUY the stones album but you just DOWNLOAD
the indie stuff, right?

is the new jagger album any good?

yeh that makes sense. i haven't heard it.

Phil Spector christmas Album
ENO--music for films (vol 1)
Can--Ege Bamyasi
Neil--Harvest Moon
whatever Ryan is listening to...

A Post-Malcolm Can album? I am confused.

Music For Films. You, sir, are relevant.

Fugu- Fugu 1

Edith Frost- Telescopic
The Strokes- This Is It
The Flaming Lips- The Soft Bulliten
Pete Yorn- Life On A Chain

the Auteurs - After Murder Park
Sean Lennon - Into the Sun
Clinic EP
Bernard Butler - People Move On

eno- what do you mean a post malcolm can record? damo is the man and you know this to be true.
jamiec- good call on the bernard butler. i'll have to break that one out of the vaults.

Ohhhhmahgodddd...Mr. Lawn Wrangler, that signature is beyond classic - Never change it - And put it on your e-mail, put it everywhere, it rocks.  Did you get the new Pulp yet?

Lawn Wrangler - about the only vocalist I can think of worse than Damo is Jarvis.

No seriously though, I like Malcolm and Damo (and Jarvis to an extent) but Damo can't hold a candle to the insanity of Malcolm. Which do you consider to be a more relevant line?:

1. Turtles have short Regs not for ze walkeen
2. Soda pop is best in the morning when you don't have nothin to talk about. Correction: the coat hanger should beeeeeeeeeeee up-side-down.

The proof is in the pudding. Or should I say the proof is in the octopus...leaped out of the, p-p-pool!' zhooooom zhoom zhoom zhoom.

eno is god and malcolm is jesus so jesus is black so all those black people are right about jesus being black.

I don't know what the hell happened. I tried to post this earlier, and I'm looking at the message board and I don't see it now. I don't know if it was operator error or faulty programming. I fear that my message will not approach the eloquence of form of its predecessor, but here goes.
eno-
In response to your repeated claims that Malcolm is the better of the two (well, only two relevant) singers of Can, I have to disagree with you vehemently. I understand your argument in the madness categorie, and in the end we are comparing apples and oranges here, but really, not only is Damo a better singer than Malcolm Mooney was, his voice, I feel, fit the music better. Arguably, the band dynamic is completely different with each as attested to by the members themselves. Jaki formed more of a bond with Malcolm's rhythmic intensity and Karoli formed more of a bond with Suzuki's, subtly, sensuous alliteration, I mean, voice. Once again, apples and oranges, but for my money Damo all the way. Although man, 'You Doo Right' is without a doubt one of my favorite can songs, as is 'She brings the rain' and 'uphill' and 'the thief' and '19th century man'(which came before 21st century schizoid man) so maybe I should just shut up.

I also included in my earlier blurb a lengthy list of what I have been listening to, which I will abbreviate now.

Clinic-'internal wrangler' 'singles ep'
Can-all of it
Roxy music-'for your pleasure'
Sigur Ros-'Agaetis Byrjun'
Gang of Four-'brief history of the 20th century'(tracks 1-12)
briggite fontain-'comme a la radio'
v.u.-'peel slowly and see'
charles mingus-'anthology'
ennio morricone-'metti una sera a cena' 'spaghetti western'
wire-'chairs missing'
alice coltrane-'journey in satchinadananda'
ethiopiques-vol. 4
eno-'music for films' 'discreet music' 'ambient 1: music for airports' 'taking tiger mountain'
the fugs-'the fugs'
Modern Lovers-'modern lovers'
television-'marquee moon'
mission of burma-'signals, calls and marches'
sonny sharrock-'black woman'
archie shepp-'blase'
steve reich-'music for 18 musicians'
John cage, luciano berio, ilhan mimaroglu-'electronic music'
Cornelius-'fantasma'
My bloody Valentine-'loveless'
Serge gainsbourg-'confidentiel'
nico-'chelsea girls'
Lee Perry-'kung fu'

If something like this comes up twice, I apologis(z)e for being so self-indulgent.

I'm just busting balls about Damo. My favorite Can album happens to be Tago Mago but I love what happened with Malcolm and why he had to leave. My mood swings with which one I prefer.

I'm also listening to Signals, calls, and marches right now. Someone copied me a cd of it and it's quite good. Nowhere near as good as Gang of Four though. Too bad GoF only had one good album. I think I'll call it the 'Specials syndrome'. Good to see people like God's ambient albums too.

I went through a phase about a year back when I listened to nothing but Reich and Cage. Reich's typing music and stuff can be more insane than Malcolm 'many things are you afraid of, you say, nothing, blaaaaaah yyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh, YEPPI YEPPI AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH' Mooney.

I am also a big lover of Tago Mago. Ege Bamyasi is probably my favorite. It's the one that turned me on to Can so I sort of have an allegiance to it. Soundtracks is a biggie to. Future Days-first ambient album-yea or nay?

also-
Suicide-'suicide'
Yo La Tengo-'I can hear the heart...' 'And then nothing..'
Os mutantes-'mutantes' 'os mutantes'
Serge Gainsbourg-'Histoire de melody nelson'
Phil Spector-'Back to Mono'
Kraftwerk-'II'(green cone) 'ralf & florian'
New York Dolls-'Too much too soon'
Bowie-everything through the eno albums
art ensemble of chicago-'a jackson in your house/message to our folks'
Lou Reed-'metal machine music'
bla,bla,bla

so does pere ubu have anything to do with that guy from red krayola? an album to start with would be....?

and who is neuboy? my goodness, can you tell me what to listen to for the rest of my life?

on a separate note, how do i describe the features to all my friends who haven't seen them, in a manner which would convince them that they need to? i've never brought anyone to a show who didn't fall in love, but i'm dealing with boys who need an extra push to put down the pipe and drive thirty minutes to murfreesboro.

First Ambient Album:

is NOT future days by Can
is NOT sonic seasonings by Wendy Carlos
is NOT anything else you people think of

First ambient album:

IS discreet music by Brian Eno
if you don't consider track one ambient...
IS music for films vol 1 by Brian Eno
if you don't consider that ambient...
IS music for airports by Brian Eno

Brian Eno invented ambient. There is no other answer.

as far as Pere Ubu goes, either of these 3:
Datapanik in the Year Zero EP
Modern Dance
Dub Housing
anything else is NOT a good album to start with

If your friends' idea of fun is sitting around and smoking pot, they're not going to enjoy The Features. Your friends are called 'nonproducers' and would not survive in this Social Darwinist country once I take it over and make it that way.

Neuboy - Kraftwerk II? geez, it's been years since I dusted that one off. i like I and R&F and tone float, but don't care for II. It won't be long before the name Amon Duul pops up on here. And how about Silver Apples? I'm listening to their album more than anything right now.

tell yr friends that hot girls like the features. this seems to be one of those univeral truths.

mayo thompson from this so called red krayola did a stint w/ the ubu in the early 80's. possibly after or during new picnic time, not too sure. i stay away from post dub housing ubu.

neuboy is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, donning bad shoes and floppy hair. don't humor him, it only makes it worse.

gentlemen (or ladies possibly) we have successfully transformed this features message board to a pere ubu/can discussion area. good work.

Yes, Pere Ubu and Can are far more relevant than the Features. I suggest we ask Michael to change the website material. Malcolm's picture will look real nice where Matt's is sitting now.

Bad shoes my ass. Would you like me to tell you what to listen to for the rest of your life? Don't forget terminal tower. Can we talk about Faust and Cluster next?

We can talk about Cluster since they recorded with Eno, but Faust would be off-topic for this Can/Eno/Ubu/XTC message board.

See? You have to have three letters or it's off topic. Faust has five. Features has eight. Those are off topic here.

ELO, LFO, STP, REM...

now listening to:
Jenny Toomey:'Antidote'
Prefuse 73:'Vocal Studies...
The Poets of Rhythm:'Discern Define'
Hefty Records 'Immediate Action' comp.
Jan Jelinek:'Loop-Finding-Jazz-Records'
Tiffany Anders:'Runnin' From No Place...
Sebadoh:'III'

vitalance-good call on the poets of rhythm. quite funky.

ESG-'A South Bronx Story'
Cornelius-'Point'
Nathaniel Merriweather-'Nathaniel Merriweather presents Lovage, or Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By'
Roxy Music-'Stranded'
Donovan-'Mellow Yellow'

so my shows page doesn't show up and i've heard about something this weekend with character? forgive my puerile reverie, but i just couldn't miss that aurally and aestheitcally pleasing combination. please hook me up if you know something.

listening to? yes to the can, the gil scott (whoever said that one needs to start talking more), the roxy music, the televsion, the yo la tengo...and more of the lambchop, miles, silver jews, de la soul, godspeed, funky 16 corners, coltrane, smog, and will oldham.
r.i.p. ramone, hooker, atkins, o'farrill and harrison
don't care to have a favorite feature, or to weigh in on the facial hair debate, think cover songs should be reserved for high school prom bands (lurve?), wasn't too impressed with jmb except the video was funny, didn't touch what i was passed, want an actual album, don't care to have my taste dubbed relevant or not, don't know shit about spongebath, think too many of you must know each other....oh and the website is really neat-o.

gil scott heron is the black jesus (or devil, perhaps). sometimes i think i am black too (and jesus at that).
whitey, whitey, whitey, why you gotta bring my brotha down?

I already told you Malcolm Mooney is Jesus so that was settled. However, Gil and Malcolm may be of the same divine blood line.

Freezetag,
The Features are playing the Slow Bar Friday the 11th with Character and My Tyger. Are you a fan? (So I'm a hypocrite, so what?)

the originator and benefactor of rap, yes. and while he may prove that jesus himself was black, i have been informed at some convincing length that divinity and even 'the bible' are in the hands of another band.

neuboy,
well i don't have a cd or a t-shirt or anything, and i've only seen them once.
so am i a fan? no, i guess not.
am i floored, befogged, enamored, seeking to redefine religion and language? yes.
thanks for the show info. i'm there with bells on. i fear i'm suppossed to know who you are?

by the way, can someone a little more with-it than me explain this foolish post-rock designation that like every band i enjoy gets?

I wouldn't go so far as to call myself 'with-it,' and I generally try to avoid labels and whatnot, but as far as I can figure the term 'post-rock' is an all-encompassing rubrick used in reference to bands who play music that is influenced by and came after rock music but can't really be defined as rock music. That said, post-rock does have a sound that is identifiable to a degree. This isn't to suggest that all the bands sound the same, but there is a certain amount of continuity to what they do. The music is often drawn from everything from jazz, electronica, avante-garde, noise, etc. Tortoise is generally noted as one of the biggies of post-rock but whether or not they are considered the progenitors of it is a matter of conjecture. In other words, I don't know if they 'invented' it or not. These bands generally hail from Chicago or Louisville, and if I am not mistaken, have ties to the math-rock scenes of each. I think Mogwai is considered post-rock. Godspeed You Black Emperor also, I believe. I am not an authority nor do I have any vested interest in post-rock. Some of it is very good, but I find a lot of it brow-beatingly complicated, boring, tedious, academic, droll,etc. It's like any other musical genre. A lot of good, but generally more bad. Ultimately what I am saying is that you may have to ask someone else. I hope this has been helpful.

say neuboy, if you're rockin' out to Reich's 18 musicians ... have you checked out the most recent Bang on a Can Orchestra on which they perform 'New York Counterpoint?' 'Four Organs' is a masterwork in patient listening.

No, actually I have not. I'll have to look into that. Enlighten me.

>>'Four Organs' is a masterwork in patient listening.<<

Is this a desired quality in music?

Patience is a virtue.