I'm just curious who everyone likes and enjoys going to see. Obviously we all like the Features. Other than that I really enjoy:

Joe, Marc's Brother
Superdrag
the Carter Administration

I don't like:

LuvJoi
the Shazam

i like:

Red Line (from memphis)
Fluid ounces
self
basementality
feeble weiner
tepid (from memphis)

-Kelly

Nice...those are good bands. I forgot to mention the Bees and the Sways.

the lifeboy (wherever they may be)

I like:

the Thompson Bros.
Jetpack
the Katies(we can still count them right?)
Big Ass Truck - their funky, but I dig em.

Not mentioned yet that I enjoy are:

Character
Fleming & John
Utopia State
Glossary
Bela Fleck & the Flecktones
Lambchop
Bare Jr

I'm probably forgetting some.  I know these are all from Nashville area, but I am woefully ignorant of Tennessee artists outside of Middle TN, other than the obvious ones.

Flemming and John........Why didn't I think of that!!! Good job, jamiecarroll.

the features
lifeboy

the features

when i'm in the mood:

vee
new faggot cunts

Lambchop, Lifeboy, Features, Superdrag, Sneaky Eaters, JMB, New Faggot Cunts...

NEUBOY - Have you ever heard the Sneaky Eaters? That's a name I've not heard in some time.

Of course I have heard the Sneaky Eaters. I have one of their press kits at my house.

Venus Hum
Rock Andes

(Edited by Lauren at 4:23 pm on Jan. 26, 2002)


(Edited by Lauren at 2:58 pm on Jan. 27, 2002)

I LOVE The Features and Fluid Ounces

I like Self, the Sneaky Eaters (only seen them once)

I don't like Lifeboy, the Katies, Glossary, Jetpack, Superdrag,

I loathe Serotnin

ok, i'm sorry for being all out-of-forum here, but did anyone go see the features this weekend? was it good? oh and speaking of roadtrips, is the clinic in atlanta thing the closest and the soonest we've got? as actively as this walking with thee album is kicking my ass, i'm not sure waiting until march will work.

ok. best bands in nashville or maybe anywhere except bethesda, maryland: paul burch and wpa, character, lambchop, features, lifeboy(r.i.p.?)

bands that i think live here but may not count in this game: yo la tengo, dave berman/silver jews, josh rouse

bands about whom i need to be told what the big damn deal is: venus hum, self, joe marc's brother

highlights from the long list of local bands i've been roped into seeing because they were a friend of a friend or what not, and they turned out to be the musical equivalents of dog shit: the davenports, the obscure, dharmakaya, atticus fault, jetpack...

nashville bands i miss: sneaky eaters

Hello Friend,

Did I understand you correctly?  You already have 'Walking With Thee'?

Oh well, I need to call you anyway, I'll ask you about it then...

PS - Don't pretend that you don't know what the 'big damn deal' is with Self. Don't let certain other people talk you out of liking them.

Hey freezetag, all the cool people don't like Self. You want to be cool, don't you?

i am completely not cool, but i still don't care enough either way about self. sorry jamie, i know what *you* think the big damn deal is all about. i just think that if i wanted to hear music that sounds like a video game, well i'd go straight to the top. oh, and the clinic is ridiculous, i'm only gonna hook you up for something damn serious in exchange...like say, the ep from a certain local band?

I also have the new clinic album (I'm sure our source is the same certain dark-complected record store clerk)and I am more than a little disappointed with it. It sounds forced and contrived; like they were trying to please too many people besides themselves. It reaks of formula; gone is the sonic adventurousness and variance of Internal Wrangler. There is also too much going on. I.W. was so minimal and cool. The tones on all the songs are the same. It sounds as if they have been mining the same caverns for years and where before they were coming out with ore, now all they are getting is coal. It definitely has its moments, and I think it is a grower. There is a chord change in the last song that kills me every time I hear it. I don't know. Perhaps my expectations were too high. I would think it was gold if it came from anyone besides them. These guys have been my favorite band for the past year and I feel like they let me down. That's a good thing though. I liked them too much anyway. I'm sure the stuff will be excellent live. Yes the Atlanta show is the nearest and soonest. The next closest thing is in Cleveland.
Also Freezetag, I can hook you up with the ep of said local band if you would like.

Thank-you, Mr. Bangs, for the above analysis. I personally think the new clinic is not as bad as you think, although i don't hear a lot of new ground being broken from the previous effort. regardless, i don't know much about them anyway. I like the first EP.
Getting back to the topic at hand.....(best TN bands)

1) The Features (best in the country, actually)
2) The Joe, Marc's Brother
3) The Superdrag
4) The Character
5) The Glossary
6) Slack

Forget the Self/Fl.Oz thing, folks, its over and has been over. No offense to all the nice people in those bands, I wish them all the best of luck.

about Jetpack...I personally don't like them. Maybe i'm jealous, maybe i'm not. I think they are lacking stage presence and soul. Like the new Weezer. I just deleted a long rant here, but suffice to say that i think a lot of their hype comes from the guy at 12th and porter who also manages them or something. ever notice they don't play anywhere except 12th, and get all the choice gigs?

Not trying to slander anyone, just honest observations.

damn, i forgot to mention Lambchop and feable weiner. Oh, and one everyone has forgotten: The Lucky Guns

forgotten as in forgotten how much i don't like them

sinasugarsick, i take it that Iggy and the Stooges, and the MC5 went over your head?

Roadie,
If you actually knew anything about Iggy and the Stooges you would know that sinasugarsick's signature is a lyric and song title of theirs.

man you guys are dicks

so i guess i should be lovin the strokes

or not

That's my roommate lawnwrangler. He likes it when I'm a dick to him.

ok, ok, sinasugarstick. I think i know who you are in the real world but i'm not entirely sure. doesn't matter. Yes, you should be liking the strokes! Should I be disliking them to pretend to be hipper than the hipsters? I already am hip so i'm not worried about it. This is going to open up a whole goddamn shitbox of people blasting me now, but i gotta speak my mind. I don't sit around and listen to Is This It all day long and I don't jack off to them like everyone else. But lets face it, how many records can you count that were better than theirs last year? I can think of three at most, but the point is that at the very least we should be appreciating the fact that the 'hottest new band' could be a lot worse. At the very least, they are giving MTV kids an artistic option to the crap. Everyone bitches about how major labels suck and MTV sucks and when there is finally something decent, everyone yells 'hype hype hype!' and forgets the music.
Also, as far as the Lucky Guns are concerned, i'm interested to know why you don't like them. For what it's worth, (which probably isn't much), most people disagree with you. They are the only band in the history of The Features that The Features couldn't follow. They blow the doors off anywhere they go. Ya, they're rough around the edges, but thats what makes 'em great.

Roadie-

Concerning the Strokes: Fuckin' A, man.  There's nothing to be ashamed of.  They made a good record.  I think that the proof with the Strokes, though, will be in their 3rd album.  Yes, I said 3rd.  They are allowed, I suppose, to rehash 'Is This It' for their next record - that's okay.  But if they are still doing the same thing by their 3rd record, they will evade the history books completely.  The Strokes are good, but I think they have the potential to develop into something great, we'll see where they go from here.  I do thank them for taking a step in the right direction for popular music.

Concerning Lucky Guns: I wouldn't know; I must've miseed that show.  Every time I hear their name, though, I think of LA Guns...

i got yer back roadie sir. i completely agree that the strokes are a good band and is this it is a nice album. it made my top ten list of the year. and i think it's bullshit that the uberhipsters trash it for obvious reasons. maybe that makes us even hipper than the ubers because we can appreciate it for what it's worth. nah, nevermind. however, concerning the strokes i would like to point out a few reasons why our beloved features are better than the debated strokes.
1. parrish yaw. this guy is a secret weapon. i cannot think of any band (espicially le strokes) who would not benefit from his incesent pounding of his bad ass gear.
2. julian casablancas is a pussy. people were like 'he's the new lou reed, the new jagger, the new iggy.' bullshit. after seeing them live i realized this guy is more liam gallager and jim morrison than said rock gods.
3. the rest of the strokes are pussies. look at em. their thrift store chic reeks of prada. just because you wear a leather jacket and a ramones t shirt does not make you hip (or does it?). the features shop at thrift stores out of necessity (as most us probably do), not for fashions sake.
4. rollum haas. despite fab moretti having the coolest name ever, he's pretty weak on the skins. gimme rollum anyday. he could outplay mr. moretti blindfolded, with one hand tied behind his back and a litter of kitten down his pants (don't get any ideas, rollum). and besides, who else plays drums in turtlenecks?
5. roger dabbs. need i say more. as you replied ms. carroll, he is too one of my favorite bass players.
6. the features are southern boys just like you and me. everyone expects brooding, hipster retro rock out of nyc, but how sick is it that the features come to the buffet from sparta, tenessee. i've been to sparta once in my life and it is quite the atypical small southern town. and one of these days there willl be a statue erected in the honor of the lads that saved rock and roll.
7. facial hair. at least two of the features can grow beards, or at least try to. this relates back number three. and by that i mean if you can't grow a beard you are a pussy (unless you are a female, then you are normal).
8. songs. matthew's songs keep getting better and better. he also writes about about substance: wives, babies, love, masterbation, absence of love.

okay so that's only eight. if ya'll can help me out here, i'd grealty appreciate it.

ladies (both of you), please take no offense to my overuse of the word pussy.

I finally broke down and listened to the strokes.  I didn't dislike it but I didn't really enjoy it either.  It sounds like college radio to me, which I don't like, so I don't want to say one way or another if it's good.  Anyways, I like lawnwrangler's post and I want to respond.

1. yaw, huh?  i wish i had all those toys.
2. funny.  but you don't think morrison is a rock god?  i don't really like him but...
3. funny.  i wonder if the strokes are going to come defend theirselves like...
4. you think fab moretti (a gay italian name) is cooler than rollum haas (a superior german name)?
5. if roger can keep from being deported again, he will be the greatest bassist since...  i'm just glad he dances now.  he's by far the sexiest.
6. dem suthern boys is sumthin else.  however, i would venture to say that rollum probably isn't the best drummer to come out of sparta.  i don't even think he's top 10.
7.  grrrrrrrrr i hate facial hair on musicians.  musicians should be neat and proper.
8. no comparison on songs.  a features/strokes tour would be great so the features could embarass them.

here's some more

9. managers.  no one is better than rory godlike daigle.
10. eyeballs.  watch matt's eyeballs when he's singing (exorcising demons).  it's like he does have a demon - hiding somewhere - where is it?
11. message boards.  i'm on the features' message board.  that should be reason enough.
12. sunglasses indoors.  wait i'm gonna have to take a point away for that one.
13. girls jogging in place.  OH DEAR GOD!!!!!!!   HOW MANY BANDS HAVE GIRLS JOGGING IN PLACE???????  haven't seen them in a while though.
14. capital letters.  the features don't acknowledge them.
15. five alive.  i once spotted matt drinking a five alive.  OH DEAR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HOW MANY BANDS DRINK FIVE ALIVE??????????????????

wait there's one more.

HAND CLAPS. oh precious god in heaven! the more hand claps, the better the band. i wish the features would make me honorary hand clapper. it would bring meaning to my life.

yeah handclaps, definitely handclaps. speaking of sunglasses, if you put some big aviators on matthew, he looks just like jarvis cocker. oh yeah and the eyeballs thing. despite being a hell of a guy, he scares me while onstage. demons for sure.

It's all about handclaps, really. Handclaps make or break a band's greatness in my book

anyone who likes handclaps goes on my relevant list. is handclap one word or two? or is it three?

matt wearing aviator glasses and drinking a five alive should be on the album cover.

road
i'll take the strokes, but i don't love them.  i love the features.  but the strokes are going to have to do a little more for me to even think about showing them some love.
(i do have respect for their manager's brother who posts at the same msg board as i and knows his shit when it comes to music and management)
my daughter likes the strokes, but she's cooler than me so i guess that doesn't count.

re: the lucky guns
my bestfriends like them.  i wasn't impressed and i sure as hell wasn't blown away.  should i get new friends or should i break down and be cool?  after all, madonna didn't get rich off of me and i'm starting to feel left out.

~sina sugarsUck

brianeno, are you trying to be the manager's right hand man? it's not gonna work. it's just not. he's not that dumb.

here we go with the cluelessness again.
i say rory is godlike so i must be sucking up.
i say a lemur could manage better than rory so i must be insulting him.

but i'm sure he's pleased you think he is dumb, just not that dumb.
seeing as how you're not relevant, i shall not waste more time responding.

i'm not relevant why? cause i haven't been posting as long as you have or as often? rory's not dumb at all. you insulted him, now you're sucking up. i don't care if you respond, just know that no one cares about your decisions of relevance.

eno, you are kind of rude sometimes. try lightening up. it might help. this is all about the features, not about who is the coolest person or worthy enough to be responded to on the message board. come on.

(Edited by featuresgirl at 6:55 pm on Jan. 31, 2002)

Yeah, Eno, lighten up a little bit. Stick some sunshine up your keister!

geez, everyone needs to lighten up. mr. eno2 and i have gotten past what little differences we have and i urge the rest of you to do the same. i don't think he is sucking up to the management. If anybody is sucking up to them on this board its me. I save my complaints to say their face..........and then they laugh.

Hi Cyrus.  Figure out the signature thing yet?

Featuresgirl,  sorry if I sound rude but it's hard to deduce meaning with no voice inflection.  What you may perceive as rude, someone else may as funny, and another as arrogant.

Roadie, I do suck up to management.  Rory is a god.  I would never say anything bad about Rory!  And I sooooooooooooooooo want to be Rory's right hand man.  (and you owe me dinner)

eno, it's alright. i just think you were being somewhat harsh. from earlier posts it could be deduced that you were making fun of rory so people would stick up for him. but i know it's all fun and games....

and handclaps kick ass, especially with matt's silly little grin

Relevant: Handclaps, Matt Pelham's demonic eye thing,
Rollum playing drums with kittens down his
pants whilst wearing a turtleneck, the
Features being lightyears better than the
Strokes and not getting their props because
they are rugged southern men from the hills
of Middle Tennessee rather than spoiled rich
boys from NYC where everyone is born hip
and doesn't have to work for it, Matt Pelham
in aviators, Julian Casablancas being a pussy,
sunglasses indoors, girls on trampolines, Rory.
irrelevant: the Strokes, people who still don't
understand eno's off-color humor, all Features
message board members.

relevant: relevant and irrelevant lists, the word 'whilst', clinic! (where have you been clinic?), tigers
irrelevant: humour spelled 'humor', people who have never been to sparta, lions without hallogallos

relevant: Clinic's 'Internal Wrangler' and singles ep
irrelevant: Clinic's new album 'Walking With Thee'

neuboy,
as irrelevant as you might think it, i'm still very very curious to hear it. say you copy it for me, in exchange for that gang of four cd you procured last week?  

i hope for your sake it was entertainment and not solid junk.

The Preservatives, Glossary, Fl. Oz.(Final show Saturday Feb 2 at the Boro) De Novo Dahl, Any Sam Baker band

Actually it was Entertainment and the Yellow EP-care of Rollum and Katie.

the magnificant rreturn of the sucks!!! (if you were at the boro last night you know what i mean)

neuboy, i have that combo dealie as well. as much as you like the album, never be tempted to listen to solid gold. 5:45 and ether are the most relevant songs in the history of music. anyone who disagrees is just plain irrelevant.

'At Home He's a Tourist' and 'Anthrax' are both particularly relevant these days.

i had anthrax going thru my head constantly for about 2 months after the terrorist attack. not anthrax the virus, but the song. otherwise, i would be dead and not posting (sorry everyone).

The Strokes, The Lucky Guns, Matt P. and the song as the only relevant thing in music.

The strokes made a great record. Who cares if they are rich? Who cares if they are pretty? Who cares if they come from NYC? Who cares if they are the most highly touted band in recent memory? They music speaks for itself. It is not the Velvet Underground. It is not Television. But they never claimed to be that to my knowledge. The usually stupid professional trend makers known as critics coined them this. Everyone is waiting for the next Velvet Underground, but the truth is the next velvet U would not be popular in their time, but rather influential on future musicians/songwriters. Julian C. is not and never will be as good as Lou reed, but he is still better then most all new bands/writers on major labels. Anyone who knows anything about music would know that these guys would have made it to the public without being rich or pretty. Sure.. definitely not as fast or maybe ever as wide spread but they would have made it. With a record that well conceived and executed they would have thrived on an indie. Lastly on the strokes, bottom line is they can write songs and have a sound…and this is a perfect transition into my second topic,
the lucky cubs. These guys for sure rock. So what. Who cares about rock in the long run? Name one band that, as eno2 might say, is relevant today only because of “rocking” or “blowing the doors of the place”???? huh??? That’s what I thought. If you can’t write songs you are not relevant. “Rocking” means absolutely nothing in the long run. It should only be a tool/vehicle for an expression, but there must be some kind of expression for the vehicle, that is “rock” to be valid. The lucky cubs have great riffs and a “rocking” sound, but as far as I can tell they have no songs…none. And furthermore, their attitudes from being a decent draw in a small town music scene for an entire year, thats right ya’ll a whole year, stink of pompous self-importance. This, as evidenced in how “they” as a collective treat other people they share the stage with. (I know this from experience). And I have been around these guys individually and they seem to be very cool. I just disagree with the way they conduct themselves as a band as in relation to other bands in a small local scene. I remember when Matt M., The Katies, the ounces and the features attained success in this town, i.e., with spongebath and the respective other labels, with a lot more cause maybe justification for attitudes, said local “tunesmen” never had it (an attitude) and we all know that everyone of these bands has played bigger/better/more lasting shows in the boro. If the Cubs write some good songs they will have a place but for now they should drop the false sense of self-importance and be a wee bit more respectful to deserving bands with which they perform.
Lastly Matt P. writes great fucking songs that deserve to reach the masses and will. The Features could not work together as a band any more perfectly. They are a well-oiled machine, but without the songs as the basses their sound is irrelevant. It, the sound, is perfectly the vehicle and being built upon the songs, is beautifully valid.
I apologize for the length but I am bored and having fun.
Without the songwriter music is dead. It has no purpose, besides maybe jazz and even then one has to know how to put chords together in a unique or pleasing way.
Long live the idea, the writer, the one who has something at all to convey.
It all starts with the song.

By the way, I haven’t heard anyone mention, as a favorite local writer, Moses Mays. If you haven’t heard this man do it as soon as possible. He is to my knowledge and opinion the best lyricist that has ever called this town home. Brilliant …………the song is alive and well for us fellow boroites. Moses is playing this sat. (2/9/02) at the red rose.

“All my favorite singers couldn’t sing.” (but they all sure could/can write)

So long-

silver jews line? nice.

William-

I know who you are, believe me on that one.  Your kind needs to pull their head out of their ass long enough to realize that the Strokes are killing american music, but unfortunately until the hungry and unpurposely dirty can afford to not eat for a month to buy a guitar then I guess all we have is middle to upper classers trying to emulate the really unfortunate.  The real shame is that these Armani Sweeties are denying the only thing that makes them good, money, in specific daddy's money,why try it when you can buy has to be their creed.  I bet you went to a private school, I bet you know which kind of caviar is good, and you can afford the right wine for the right meat.  Look at yourself in your gold plated mirror and see what I see, a total waste of thought.  The Strokes should tour with Nada Surf so that they can see what is in store for them.
I do agree with you about the Lucky Cubs, who I reefer (their word not mine) as the talentless, riff rock, pointless excercise in potential heart attack rock.  I would rather go watch five turds on a stick perform than go see a bunch of guys who think they can be cool by trying, and I do mean trying, to exactly, and again I mean exactly, do what someone did years ago to try to be cool.  To the Lucky Guns I say, Brother please.  
The mufreesboro scene sucks so bad.  Please stay tuned for future bitching about the new kindergartners on the block Feeble Weiner and the all too easy street of Glossary.

um bobby...what's wrong with private schools? many privately schooled individuals are completely well adjusted, and given your post, i cannot say the same for you. you are not black nor from the delta. stop singing the blues.
eno-make room on the the irrelevant list.

Eno goes to a private school
not by choice
lawn, the only reason i don't have an irrelevant list is someone would surely go crying to someone else about it. rest assured there are many people on it.

I just wanted to take a minute to apologize for my comments yesterday. I am just a little bitter since I had to move to Chattanooga. See my brother Chris has this plumbing business, and since my band was going nowhere, I took him up on his offer to let me be of all things a plumbers assistant. So yesterday I was venting, and as soon as I sent it I realized that fo rme the journey of writing the email was what I needed not the actually posting of such. I mean I have never even heard the Strokes and the only thing I know about the Lucky Guns, Feable Weiner, or Glossary is what my friend Brent e-mails me, back to the Strokes, I do have a serious hatred for blazers and khakis and all those golden action gel bastards that inhabit private schools while nippling their brandy. The reason for this is that I too went to a private school, and no one would ever beleive the horrible things that go on their, and the drastic class battles between the rich and the scholarshiped. For this belief I will not apologize.

David Knables
AKA

Which private school did you attend, Bobby Cox, if you don't mind me asking?
It sounds like it has really affected you. My public and private school experiences have both been good, in their own ways.

hey i feel ya, bro. i was one of the scholarshiped ones. and, please, take my comments with a grain of salt. i get really excited to see new members posting. i speak for all of us regulars when i say we look forward to you, and everyone else, keeping up on the posts. cheers.

YEAH LAWNBOY!
YOU REMEMBER HOW WE USED TO MAKE FUN OF YOU?
SCHOLAR-SHIP!  SCHOLAR-SHIP!

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 10:25 pm on Feb. 7, 2002)

Or how about the spring-break-party occurance with that cornwall girl, Wrangler? You welcomed her to the club nicely, I think you were still pretty new to the scene yourself.

hmmmmmmmm...let's see here........yes i think i remember that.....................oh yeah, fuck off.

Who's this cornroll girl?

Sara Cornwell - Spring 1997 weekend fling victim of Sir Wrangler. Love ya, JC!

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 2:10 pm on Feb. 11, 2002)

Keep that dirty laundry coming.

just another reason why 17 yr olds should not drink alcohol. you are all assholes, but are missed.

Lawnwrangler, you don't like having your personal life published, bit by juicy bit? I'm sorry. That was probably over the line. You now have a free punch. Use it well, you only get one.

are you crazy? of course i do. it makes me feel like neuboy. oh don't worry i'll get you. i'll definitely get you and yer little red headed friend too.

nothing but fun memories were meant to be spawned by that comment. anything that happened over five years ago is only allowed to be mentioned in the spirit of laughter. I think someone needs to invent an emoticon for 'sarcasm intended'. i would use it so much you might as well model it after my face. this is as close as i could get, :cool:

i truely cannot picture you (or most of my friends at that) without a cigarette dangling from a blue face.

i'm a little behind in my post-reading... but i just wanted to say that i've known sara cornwell since i was like 12 and if she's half as lame as she was back then... oh lordy, alcohol isn't even an excuse.

oh shit, i didn't think anyone else besides the the obvious two would know who she was. in wrangler's defense, he was drunk enough to make that a legitimate excuse for anything that night.

gossip is irrelevant

yeah, why is this on the 'general' message board anyway....?

questions are irrelevant

statements are also irrelevant

opinions are irrelevant

this was a great thread.

and i miss brianeno2.

you went digging deep for this one sina. those were some of my first posts. mean from the start. i was hoping LW would have forgotten about that free shot, though. thanks.

i would like to say that this thread was highly entertaining. i don't know this cornroll chick, but it all sounds very amusing. and i think each features message board member should get one free shot each.

What I don't like about this thread is the jetpack-bashing. Those guys rule and they're getting better every day.

What I do like about this thread is that it demonstrates the budding "relationship" between a certain roadie and a certain sinasugarsick. Now they've been deemed favorite couple by everyone's Keith (tied with ELT and Smee). Who woulda thunk it?

i think that ray davies and i are a nice couple...doh! oh yeah, i remember what i was actually going to say. this thread reminded me about seeing the lucky guns singer at the store the other night. i was afraid that he would start yelling about titties and beer, but it seems he's more tame in his everyday life. whew...

he was with his lady as well......he's a smart kroger shopper.

Off stage, Stephen is much more reserved. Almost "quiet," even...

indeed he is...

jc, mike-in reviewing your comments from this very old thread you both owe me drinks on saturday night. if anyone else wants to contribute to the joe baine drinking fund for any other transgressions that have occured on this board i will gladly accept. this will save me from having to shove budweisers down my pants in the parking lot.

back to the topic at hand - jetpack rocks my face off 5 or 6 times. lucky guns = scary.

I still don't like Jetpack. Carl, I'm sorry. Now granted, I haven't seen them in awhile, but nevertheless. Does the drummer still play with his mouth wide open?

Yes, Pete "the Beat" still plays mouth agape. I have a hard time focussing on him, though, when Steven is wailing on his guitar and John is laying down those sweet yet nasty basslines. Sean's awesomeness goes without saying. These guys really have it together-- much more so than a year and a half ago. They have some pretty rabid fans as well, so they must be doing something right.

I refuse to accept THIS as evidence they are doing something right. I can think of other musicians and "musicians" that have said rabid fans, but aren't doing anything right, to my estimation. However, I have already admitted that I hadn't seen them in awhile, so they may have improved drastically, I just didn't particualry care for any of the songs they were playing at the time. Seemed like a pack of trite bullshit to me, but I am just one man. Let's agree to disagree, and if not that, pistols at dawn.

(Edited by Ceeze at 5:38 pm on Mar. 7, 2003)

I like Jetpack. I don't understand why there is so much hostility towards them. I mean, I can see why they aren't some people's thing, but they are at worst, inoffensive.

the same lady you kids were bitching about at bingham's party.

Yeah, you're right. That is a very weak argument. I almost didn't mention it, but i think in this case it is very telling.