I've seen their video for "get Free" about 30 in two days on mtv2, and I must say that I really dont like them. I dont know why. They just seem to rub me the wrong way. It's really a shame.

they sound like bad grunge. personally, i thought find their current video to be laughable. the song is terrible.

(Edited by damon at 9:27 am on Jul. 22, 2002)

Yeah they defintely sound like really bad grunge. People are seriously shitting themselves over how good this band is. I just dont see it.

Did I mention that I hate this band? Just checking.

well, that makes two of us. luckily, we won't have to worry about hearing it in our room.

if you ever see me with that cd, please take the liberty of shooting me in the face.

hmmm... that sounds messy. maybe i'll tie you up and throw frisbees at you. as our stoner friends could tell you, those can be painful.

Wow, I forgot about our game of Hardcore Frisbee we played until 4 in the morning in the new courtyard at MTSU. That game was very painful. However the stoners did take the most punishment.

they felt our wrath. that game is very amusing after a night of drinking.

It wasnt that funny the morning after. there were many bruises.

ah yes, casualties of war.

However it wasnt as bad as the time I tried to set Pilch on fire. That was really bad.

that was shocking. i feared for my life that night. i thought you would try to set me on fire, like the pyro guy from Quills

Quills was a very freaky movie. Very Starnge. Geffory Rush's penis. Very bad. Sex with dead Kate Winslet. Very bad.

indeed, all bad things. however, it was worth it to hear a penis called a pikestaff.

on this note, i shall go about my daily business. good day to you mr. davies. i hope to correspond with you again soon.

a bid you good day.

Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to present this topic as Exhibit A in the matter of "Why This Message Board Is Losing Its Charm."

ha ha, yes: i was just about to post "The Vines or: personal conversation between Ray and Damon".

I think we're running off our most prized members.

Someone send these kids a link to download AOL Instant Messanger

eh. charm schmarm.

hugh grant is charming. dancing bears with hats are charming. messageboards are hardly charming.



(Edited by damon at 11:14 am on Jul. 22, 2002)

well said

AOL nothing. Use a phone.

Unfortunately, this is often true. You can have a group of twenty or so people working hard to create a fun, happy environment conducive to discussing shared interests, but it just takes one misbehaved person to dilute the value of an on-line community. This quirk of human interaction has been the bane of the Internet for twenty years.

i'm sorry if some misbehavior of mine has dilluted the value of this online community. i'll go to my room now.

As a veteran of many message board warzones (Star Wars, X-Men, a Whose Line board that was convinced that TOny Slattery had talked to them, the OASIS one...) I have to say that this is the calmest. I don't think that the "bane of messageboard existence" is one person, i think it's not knowing when to skip stuff. I wanted to see what they thought of the vines (I think they're okay but I don't agree with NME that they are heads and shoulders above the hives) and when it got personal, I scrolled down. If you don't care, don't read it.

well said.

i agree. let's just all be united in the peace and joy that is the features messageboard. with no hurt feelings might i add. and a big hug.

so, how 'bout them vines?

Okay...I'm not going to get involved in this debate. But I would like to make a counterpoint to what you said, Guigsy, just for discussion's sake. The other MBs that you mentioned (Star Wars, X-Men, WLiiA?, Oasis) are for hugely popular, international phenomena with thousands upon thousands of fans. And I have no doubt that the Features will one day be in that category as well. However, right now, we (as Features fans) are a small, relatively tight-knit community. I think what people like TF and YDDD are saying is that they treasure that, and don't want it to be like the Star Wars MB until sheer volume requires that it has to be.

Personally, I couldn't care less who posts what or how often, unless it's pornography or something.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 5:36 am on Jul. 23, 2002)

i still don't like the vines

i do. if for no other reason than the lead singer looks like he's about to vomit at he end of every line he sings. but that's okay damon and any other anti-vines individual, i agree to diagree.

that sounds fair enough. care for tea?

I understand your point, but I have to say that every board i've been too (except the Oasis board...that place was scary) may have started out huge but the regs there were about 20 or so who had grown into a tight-nit unit, like here. I guess the only difference is that every now and then AOL would link the board up to the welcome message (as the Buffy board called it, "The Hellmouth") and people would flood in and post without any rhyme or reason. I'm really used to that type of board and the fact that we're all, for the most part, Rutherford county centric is very new to me. I've probably seen all of you at some point or another.

I hate the Vines. Their album got an unexpectedly high review in the Nashville Rage. Very Strange. Their video is in extremely high rotation. I guess there is some kind of demand for this rubbish. or perhaps they are just bandwagon members of the "garage" revival. they sound like Nirvana ripoffs to me.

i've conveniently split the so-called "garage rock revival" into three groups.

1.Legitimate
-The Strokes
-The Hives

2.Fuck This Shit
-The Vines

3.Fuck This Lego Shit
-The White Stripes

Huh?

i like the vines. i love the hives. i really love the strokes. and, to use a phrase so popular on this board, the white stipes "rule me." and playing with legos is one of my favorite past times.

Yay! I started a messageboard phrase!

i think we should all add a "copyright StephanieW" after we use it. or maybe it's just understood....

I am flattered.

as of now i look up to you. i can only hope to coin a phrase of my own someday.

I have nothing against the White Stripes. I actually think that they are one of the best groups out there right now. yes, "Fell in Love with a Girl" did get a bit annoying, but It was still better than any of the other shit they play on the radio these days. I actually have all 3 of their albums and I find them quite enjoyable.

One of my friends is driving all the way to Birmingham, Alabama today to see the Vines tonight. I told him that he was an idiot.

I'll just chime in and say:

1) The Vines AREN'T "all that"

2) The White Stripes ARE "all that"

3) People who use the message board to re-live their crazy antics are somewhat annoying. No offense.

aawwww...

i had no idea it would hurt so many people. i'm deeply sorry.

(Edited by damon at 10:31 am on Jul. 25, 2002)

Does anyone remember when it used to be cool to *dislike* the Strokes on this MB?

While I do not remember that time of the board (because I just resently started posting) I do remember one of the people I met at the oasis concert telling me to download a Strokes song about 6 or so months before Is This It was released in the states. I downloaded The Modern Age (if I recall correctly) and thought that it wasn't all that the band was hyped to be. But then the song got stuck in my head. Then by the time the US release came around I started to like them and I bought the cd and my mind was changed.

Darn them. They grow on you.

Old topic. New info. Anyone see them on Letterman? If not. Here

http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/excl...sicplayer.shtml

that was terrible. that was fucking terrible. they really do suck. i cant believe they got a fucking major label deal. yeah, the lead singer's cute, but that doesnt make up for how much they suck. they're playing the video music awards on mtv. i plan on yelling at my tv during their performance. however, i just learned that the hives will performing on the vma's as well. maybe they'll put on a better show than the vines. sorry if i offended anyone, but man, i really do hate the vines.

Personally, I didn't really enjoy The Vines's performance on Letterman. OK, OK...I hated it. And, no, his "cuteness" doesn't make up for the poor performance.

I've listened to "Highly Evolved" about three times now and it is merely okay. I don't plan on putting it into heavy rotation or anything. The Conan O'Brien performance I saw was pretty decent though.

And come on, the Hives will rule at the VMAs. The Hives always rule whenever they perform. The antics, the strutting, it's amazing. What other lead singer tells the audience that they love his band. I just hope they use the VMA's live-ness to do something really hilarious...

"America loves the Hives"

oh yes, the hives will rule the vmas. the hives are law and i am, indeed, crime. maybe they will perform from crazy thrones like in their a.k.a. I-D-I-O-T video.
i still like the vines, but not with a passion or anything. i think they're becoming the band that everyone loves to hate.

I thought that was Creed?

Eh sorry that was me. I'm on a foreign computer and I'm a tad frazzled....feh....

A real music snob wouldn't watch the VMAs in the first place.

he's snobbish enough to use the title. i have to represent my roommate.

true, but i'm an open minded music snob. the only thing i'll watch on the vma's will be the hives. the hives love america.

(Edited by ray davies at 11:30 pm on Aug. 21, 2002)

I think the Hives are anti-American terrorists who are determined to see the destruction of our Western civilization.

as long as they terrorize america while singing catchy tunes and wearing white shoes, they're okay by me.

Judging by 99% of the crap that comes out of the "music industry," it's obvious that good, catchy songs are completely un-American. Therefore, we can only conclude that any band that produces such music, like the Features, are nothing more than subversive, counter-culture zealots determined to undermine our great nation's moral fabric.

So we must ask ourselves, "What can I do to help unravel that fabric?"

...and tucking their ties into their shirts. that's always a cool thing to do.