You can stream the new Outkast double album at http://www.mtv.com/music/the_leak/outkast/

listening to the first track, methinks Andre has been listening to much Mel Torme and Sergio Mendez

methinks I want Martin Sheen to be president.

methinks Andre ice cold 3000 can play in my horn section anytime.

(Edited by etcetera at 8:52 pm on Sep. 17, 2003)

methinks you should stop watching The West Wing...gotta go Family Guy is on.

methinks i'm going to 30 subzero temperatures soon and will have no tv and that someone should tape the west wing for me so i can find out what happens to zoey bartlett this season. did the arabs kill her? is goodman the upstanding president that sheen is?

Man, that's like sneaking in and unwrapping your Christmas presents to sneak a peek before the big morning. I want to be surprised when I buy it next Tuesday.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 10:34 pm on Sep. 17, 2003)

I applaud your self-control

I saw The West Wing for the first time tonight, and I'm practically hooked already.

Methinks subjects change quickly around here.

I can also stream it from my harddrive, and have been for a week. It's a great album, 2nd only to Aquemini. I give Big Boi's disc a 9/10, and Andre's a 10/10, although I hope that on the next album Dre will actually rap, and save the experimentation for a solo effort.

Don't worry etc, it's still really hot here in ev,il. Too hot, in fact, for me not to have air conditioning in my ridge-ghetto apartment. But I survived the summer with no desire greater than a chicago autumn to make my room temerature sleepable again.

As for no-tv, that can be viewed as a good thing, though I understand the need ofr resolution with this cliffhanger.

Will

Just wait til next week...highs are supposed to be in the low 60s.

Yeah, I watch the Chicago news.

I just saw the "Hey Ya" video from the Love Down There and I can't even describe the song. I do dig it, though. The "Way You Are" video from Speakerboxxx sucks, though. Is there any way I can just buy the second disc?

The "Hey Ya" video does rule all, indeed. After reading an OutKast interview in Entertainment Weekly where Dre says that The Hives are his favorite band, I totally see it in "Hey Ya." There is so much Pelle imitation, and I love it. I've always been a casual enjoyer of OutKast and I've always respected them, but this single/video is enough to make me want to hear more of Dre's disc. Very very cool.

The same with me. Spodeotie Dopealicious (sp) is still my favorite.

You mean Mick Jagger imitation?

He also gives props to Prince in that article. I started hearing the Prince influence on Stankonia (listen to the last 3 songs) and hoped that Andre would continue to go in that direction. And I'm glad that he has. I wonder if pink will be Dre's purple?

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 1:50 am on Sep. 24, 2003)

Yeah yeah yeah...

that's a totally different band, digsy.

I saw/heard Outkast on Letterman the other night for the first time and I was very impressed.

i like andre's disc the most... my fav. song by far is dracula's wedding. the others are ok.

Saw the video for Hey Ya, on BET the other day I'm feeling it.

Only okay? What about She Lives in My Lap? Spread? Roses? Fuck, the whole damn album? Andre is a genius.

As soon as I have money I'm gonna buy it... i can't wait! It makes me laugh so hard- it's awesome.

lol, i just got the disc yesterday and dracula's wedding is just the first song to grab my attention. Roses sounds great as well. I'm not a huge r&b or rap fan so that might explain why i liked these songs right from the get-go.

Okay, I take that back. I've listened to both discs 1 1/2 times and must say that they are both equally good. The first single from Speakerboxxx still sucks, though.

I felt the same way about the new double disc. Initially I absolutely loved the Dre disc and felt kind of indifferent to the Big Boi disc. After a few more listens I really appreciate Speakerboxxx, it's definetly more than just a straightforward rap album and it's just as creative as The Love Below, only in a different manner.

Does anyone think that even though both discs are seperate and not really connected to each other in any obvious manners that there is somewhat of an underlying theme tying the two together. Big Boi raps about his family going broke over buying Christmas presents, and Dre has a song about believing in Santa but not in Cupid. Kind of a subtle message about having faith in the physical things in life rather than the often unobtainable desire of love.

Or maybe I'm reading WAY too much into it.

Either way, both discs are good - the Dre disc is great but I almost think the Big Boi disc has more repeatability.


Michael

Well, I've waited and listened and waited and listened, trying to fully digest Speakerboxxx/The Love Below before I gave my opinion on it. And I think now it's time:

Speakerboxxx: 3.5 stars
The Love Below: 2 stars

I don't know. I guess maybe I built this double album up too much in my mind beforehand. But I am severely let down by it, ESPCIALLY by Andre's half.

Speakerboxxx was better than I expected it to be. I thought that it would be a pretty generic-sounding rap album, but it's much better than that. To me, it just sounds like OutKast (a GOOD thing). It definitely pushes the boundaries of mainstream hip-hop, but it still manages to sound very much like what OutKast has done in the past.

The Love Below? I don't know exactly what went wrong. Here's what pitchforkmedia.com said:
"As it turns out, his Prince-mimicking fusion looks a lot better on paper than it sounds in your ears."
I think that's what I'm feeling about this. I have so much RESPECT for Andre: he wrote nearly every song on his album BY HIMSELF, he produced the whole album BY HIMSELF, and he played guitars, played keyboards, and made beats for the album, too. While Big Boi has been perfectly content to be "just a rapper," Andre has gone out and taken creative control of the entire process. I respect that so much. But the actual music is just not that good. In fact, some of it is really terrible. There are definitely glimpses of greatness. "Hey Ya" still rules me. I think that maybe if Andre keeps at it, he can make really incredible music BY HIMSELF someday. But right now, I think he still needs Big Boi and Organized Noize.

The pitchfork review of this is right on. You can read it here.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 3:07 pm on Oct. 9, 2003)

Polaroid warns buyers not to 'Shake It'

man...you had me there. i honestly thought another new outkast album was already being leaked.

Yet another reason why that hippityhophop music is a detriment to society!

That song is "sweeter than a plate of yams with extra syrup". Spodeotie kicks ass.