does anyone know exactly what is going with their new album....it was supposed to come out this past september, last i heard.

oh well. i guess i'll just keep listenin to them golden oldies.
are there any other big Self fans out there?

no

self sucks

hmmm ok, why do you figure that?

because she's sina.

(Edited by deathscythe257 at 12:46 pm on Oct. 21, 2003)

I'm so obviously new that it hurts. but as i attend quite a few features shows, i have heard of Sina. I just didnt think people could striahgt up hate Self. They are so harmless.

But i guess im just digging myself deeper? Right then.

I like Self.
Try http://www.selfies.com

oh, i do...i just think they are all crazy.
thanks!

Thank you so much for that link, I had figured they didn't have any kind of site since Spongebath Records tanked.

What happened to them, anyway?

spongebath sucked

Well, they had The Features on their label...

Oh, Superflks, I'm trying to get into Self right now. What do you recommend to start with, preferably that I can listen to online, before I try and pay loads of cash for the albums.

EDIT: Holy crap, they did the jingle for Expedia? I had been listening to Self on TV all along and never knew it.

(Edited by Jakob Dorof at 7:07 pm on Oct. 21, 2003)

Breakfast With Girls is what I would recommend to start with.

(Edited by Keith at 8:12 pm on Oct. 21, 2003)

A few of my favorite songs are:
"Sophmore Jinx"
"Little Exlposion"
"FlipTop Box"
"Glued To The Girl"

I think those songs give you a good idea of what they are all about. I think you can find all of those on selfies. Let me know how it goes!

The album got pushed back to a March release date, last I heard. Their page on the Dreamworks site is never much help... You can also try http://www.selfmusic.net/

the second week in march is when it is supposed to be out. you never know...it could change between now and then. i've heard the rough mix of the record and it is quite spectacular.....definitely some of their best work.

Been listening to Self and loving a lot of it. My favorites thus far...

"Having Dinner With The Funk"
"Wide Awake At 7"
"See If You Swim"
"Wednesday Again"
"So Low"
"Trunk Fulla Amps"
"Hey, Lou"

All great so far. Oh, and I know Hey Lou was a hidden track on The Features EP...did the Features cover it, or was it just the actual Self song?

good selection of songs, you need to get the cd Subliminal Plastic Motives, great cd, and also Breakfast With The Girls. personally What are you Thinking is a great song. about hey lou, from what I understand, the drummer for Fluid Ounces (I forgot his name) wrote it and both Self and The Features have a version of it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

you're right....and sam baker is his name.

Mike Tyson's Super Punchout Rocks! Nice Avatar ELT...

Well, add that to the list of about 30 CDs (mostly out of print ones) that I want to buy. (And will be able to soon) I'm going to try and get the entire Spongebath catalogue (ambitious! or perhaps naive) sometime, or at least all the CDs by Self, The Features, Fluid Ounces, and whatever other great bands they have...er, had.

(Edited by Jakob Dorof at 11:55 am on Oct. 25, 2003)

I think I read they're on Vacant Records out of Murfreesboro now. Is that true?

I didn't think they were together at all anymore since Seth moved to LA, one joined the French Foreign Legion, one got married & wanted to quit to raise a family and Sam joined Lambchop as their drummer.

A little info for inquiring minds.
Seth moved to LA i believe a year or two ago, which essentially ended the "Tennessee" chapter of Fluid Ounces.
Since moving out there, he's been playing with his old drummer Justin, working on new material, and, for a while, I heard they were playing guitar with John Gates, who (for anyone who remembers) used to play in another band called Rockets Red Glare with none other than....Parrish Yaw. Anyway, I found that interesting. Always a Murfreesboro connection. Not sure if they still play together or not though.
Can't wait to hear some new Ounces stuff.

Yes, the Fluid Ounces are on Vacant Cage Records now. Definitely going to get that CD when it comes out...

I thought Kelli Scott of Failure/Blinker The Star was playing drums for Seth, at least on the new CD. Perhaps I was misinformed.

i hope you aren't naive enough to assume that just because a label has A good band signed to them means all the bands signed are also good.

Kelli Scott only played on a demo of Seth's...it was not a long-term collaboration.

And, as far as artist rosters go, I think Spongebath had one of the strongest ones of any "indie" rock label....Self, Fluid Ounces, the Features, Count Bass-D, the Katies, the Roaries, Call Florence Pow, the C-60's...i think a lot of labels would DIE to have an artist roster that diverse.

But what do I know.

go visit drag city or k records or kill rock stars
or christ even matador
not to mention the millions of other indie labels that are way better than spongebath.

then get back to me.

then complete the sentence, "spongebath records was such a strong "indie" rock label that it only took _______ before it crumbled to the fucking ground."


well it doesn't look like much, but hopefully you'll come to learn the ways of S.Sugarsick that will lead you out of the land of ignorance.

Well, I don't know about you, but I really love The Features, Self, and the Fluid Ounces, and I think Spongebath had a damn good roster. Sure, there have been better, definitely, but their's was pretty impressive. It definitely seemed to have been going in the wrong direction in it's final days, though...

The bands and the intentions of the label when it started up weren't the problem. There were some really talented people who worked there at the beginning, and some great bands. Unfortunately, one or two people managed to mismanage the whole shebang into the ground.

fluid ounces are on our record label Vacant Cage records you can check it out at:vacant cage records .com

The new record is called "the Whole Shebang" and yes it does have Kellii Scott as well as the drummer from Wilco.It looks like the artwork is coming along and it is a very nice package by my friend Jim Valosik . We hoping for a December /January Release with several shows in murfreesboro and Nashville.I will keep you posted.

Thanks for the intrest !

Hey avalanche, if you are Erik of Vacant Cage, I sent you an e-mail recently.

nope i am brock

erik is going out of town and has me checking his email.....i didn't see any email......is there anything i can help you with?

Calmer than you are, dude.
Reeeeelax.
It's just an opinion.
And i never said the label was "strong", i said the roster was. And most people familiar with the label tend to agree.
Take your indie rock snobbery elsewhere!
(this was a joke.)

no need for me to relax, i'm just catty. and after some time on this message board you'll come to see that my sassiness flows like warm honey.

you're entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion spongebath sucked and the only band i thought was worth my precious time (and more) was the features. i'm also fond of thinking that the only reason it took the features so long to get anywhere is because they had been associated with spongebath. and it's been my experience that people who adored the spongebath scene listened to weak, even horrid bands outside of said label

yeah...that is true in a lot of cases...but Matador records??? and a lot of k records bands are frightful too.

please... matador records rocks my proverbial socks.

Spoon and Pavement. thats about all they are good for.

yo la tengo, Interpol, guided by voices, the new pornographers, pretty girls make graves, mogwai...

yeah those are all great bands...FOR ME TO POOP ON.
actually the new pornographers are pretty good too.

Yeah, just sent an e-mail to your vacant cage address.

the shins...

i thought they were on sub pop. oh and chavez was the best matador band. i like all of the cornelius i've heard too.

yes you are correct sir. you think i would've known that after staring at their record all night long.

(Edited by smee at 6:08 pm on Oct. 28, 2003)

i loved chavez.

they played at lucy's record shop when i was in high school. matt sweeney tried to kiss me.

oh yeah?...one time me and james lo played patty cakes and watched mr. belvedere reruns.

T-Boz of TLC tried to talk to me.

james lo is a cutie. too bad you two broke up.

He didn't succeed?!?! That beats all

(Edited by richarddawson at 11:31 am on Oct. 30, 2003)

RD, which rock stars have tried to kiss you? Let's start naming names!

Joel wouldn't like me talking about that...d'oh

(Edited by richarddawson at 9:00 pm on Oct. 30, 2003)

I stuck my tounge in Paula Abduls mouth one time. Rock that.

Self played a show last week for some Dreamworks dudes and dudettes, from what i understand to rate their importance to the label more or less. But the next day it was announced that Universal has been planning to buy out Dreamworks Music division, so we will see what happens with them now. I guess they can only hope for the best, but I'm sure someone is going to get lost in the shuffle, if not completely dropped.

I hope Universal does buy Dreamworks out then maybe some of their artists will get some proper attention.

agreed.
i really hope a dude called Citizen Cope gets the respect he deserves.

Please tell me you're joking. That was one of the worst openers I've ever seen.

his opening for ben folds was weak, i agree. bad pairing. but i had a good feeling about him for some strange reason. i bought his cd and it was one of the best of 2002, honestly.

his voice is smooth and the album provided some great musicianship (it isnt just him on the recorded versions of the songs). Don't be a hater until you get all the information.

So there.

If you say so...

Hate to break the bad news but Universal plans to eliminate Dreamworks' overheard upon purchase. That means that all artists who haven't sold over 100,000 CDs are out, and that includes Self. So really, this is not good news at all, especially since their new album is so close to completion.

quick everyone, go buy a shit load of self cd!

if they get dropped, i'm coming to the rescue!!!! i'll max out a few credit cards a take out some loans and put the damn thing out!!!