weird. discuss.

Um, definitely weird, but definitely great. I...well I sure ain't buying a 3 day pass unless some other non-sucky people come. May 2nd, marked on my calendar.

well, it looks like i'll be heading to riverstages this year.

wow. that's really strange. looks like i'll be going this year.

where was this information found?

I'll be there. I love people-watching at Riverstages. RS is hit and miss with me. Sometimes it is fun and sometimes it really sucks. Last year's was made better by the Features show at the Slow Bar on that Friday night.

Bonnaroo and it's shenanagans (bands, drugs) can make Riverstages look really shitty. moreso than it might be otherwise.

I remember when the Strokes were supposed to play Dancin In The District a couple of years ago, but it was actually a misprint and Stroke 9 was playing.

(Edited by richarddawson at 2:55 pm on Mar. 5, 2004)

it's on the tour dates page at thestrokes.com

I am excited to finally see The Strokes. Yippee!

I remember that! I went the Features show on Friday night and, as part of the deal with my dad, I had to babysit my brother on Saturday and miss Riverstages. Plus, I skipped my prepaid trip to Atlanta to go to that show. Plus, the admission of my dad and myself.

That was a good show.

Oh yay. An excuse to visit Nashville on my 21st birthday.

Welcome back, Stephanie!

Thanks a ton. My hiatus has officially ended.

Choosing the features over riverstages. That was a good choice.

It will be weird to see The Strokes without making an out-of-state trip. CRAZY!



Oh, and Richard Dawson, I thought you were too cool for The Strokes now...? Aren't they a guilty pleasure of yours? That's just what I heard.



(Edited by Sexy Sadie at 1:17 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

I never said that I was too cool for the Strokes. I just said that they are a guilty pleasure of mine. Regardless, I'll be there.

Okay, I still don't understand, but okay.

if its a guilty pleasure, then its probable that someone will indulge themselves in it, but not go on and on to their friends about how great it is. for example: the o.c. is a guilty pleasure of mine, so i will probably watch the episodes religiously and will probably love them; but i wont be talking to ryan norris about it because he would probably think i was less cool and that matters to me.

i think what rd said was pretty straightfoward.

the clash in terms and confusion comes from these statements.


Sexy Sadie says that a guilty pleasure and being too cool would be the same thing. Stopforme says guilty pleasures make others perceive you as less cool. Seems like they're saying the same thing to me. However, RD says that he's not too cool, it's just a guilty pleasure.
So, how do you find what RD said to be straightforward stopforme?

I'm also not saying that what RD said wasn't straightforward.

(Edited by deathscythe257 at 3:48 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

im not saying that double negatives arent a guilty pleasure of mine.

stopforme pretty well summed everything up with this one.

I have it on good authority that Ryan Norris LOVES The OC.

let's face it. ricky d. is attempting to be more of a "cool guy" than he actually is by saying that certain albums by certain artists are guilty pleasures to him when in fact he loves said band and does not want to appear "less cool" in the eyes of those that he now affiliates with.


and i just want to remind everyone that stopforme is a faux-asian.


XOXO,

veggie

I know what a guilty pleasure is, believe it or not. It's not that I don't understand Richard Dawson's statement, it's that I don't understand his whole standpoint on the subject. But, I really don't care to have it hashed out on this message board, so nevermind. I can discuss it with him in person and less confusion and bitchy interruptions will arise.

(Edited by Sexy Sadie at 4:41 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

Don't forget the Gilmore Girls, too.

you dumbass, when have I ever NOT claimed to be a total poser? you have presented no new information to anyone, though I'm sure that you would like to think you've "busted" me. I am a poser and have been since middle school.

from another place...

And for the record, I have never made any bones about liking the Strokes. I just always offer it up as a "guilty pleasure", because to me, it is. dumbass. And, anybody that I affiliate with knows that I show little to no hesitation in giving them my honest opinion. So, I'm not "faking" it. read below

(Edited by richarddawson at 4:53 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

That description makes me think that instead of them being a 'guilty pleasure,' they should instead be something that you stick up for and defend against people who would lump them into a fad. Personally, when I think of 'guilty pleasures' I think of, say, the Gin Blossoms, Boston, "I Can't Dance," Ludacris, etc. Nothing that I would really stand up for as truly good past their superficial enjoyment levels.

I think that people's differing opinions on the word 'guilty' is where the confusion is coming from, because when you explain it without using that word it makes perfect sense and I can get where you're coming from.

And The OC sucks. American Idol is a vastly superior guilty pleasure.

In my honesty, I readily admit my "guilty pleasures". Just because I feel guilty about them, doesn't mean that I will not say that I like them.

For example, I like 80s nascar. see? I'll defend it as much as I need to, but I recognize that a large number of people would think, "racing? are you fucking serious?" It's a guilty pleasure. I feel guilty, because I recognize that "yeah, it is racing", but I like it. end of story.

I'm on to you V-man.

exactly. Except my guilty pleasures would be Passions and Average Joe. They're not guilty in that I would be ashamed to tell others about my enjoyment of them. They're guilty in that I know they are actually bad when it comes to the artform, but I still enjoy giving them my spare time.

(Edited by Sexy Sadie at 5:15 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

Bite your tounge!!!

see, thats the same thing to me. i am ashamed of liking things because i know they are bad = i will feel shameful when talking about my guilty pleasures to people who will think i am lame, so i dont. they are bad, but i like them, so i am embarassed and feel guilty for liking them. end of story.

veggie is a faux-wino. and a faux-veggie. and he used to be cool. before he started attacking me. and i am asian. so fuck you.

(Edited by stopforme at 5:41 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

oh and why did veggieman, cautioner, and ceeze [sort of] all come back in one day?

and are you calling me a bitch?

No, she was calling your interruptions bitchy. But, for the record, I think you're a bitch. But you're one hott chink, so I let it slide.

(Edited by carligula at 5:51 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

well thats not very nice

I think that she might have been referring to V-Man.

Guilty pleasures are in the eye of the beholder, so to speak. What's a "guilty pleasure" for one person may be just a "pleasure" for someone else. It does have everything to do with "coolness." Or you could substitute in the word "integrity." Basically, each of us, whether we admit it or not, have standards for most everything we encounter in life. Different people's standards are based on different things. Some people's standards are determined largely by what their peer group would think. Other people's standards are completely independant of anyone else. Some people don't like anything that is popular in mainstream America. Other people only like things that involve black people. THE POINT IS that everybody's got their something. So when we encounter music (or TV) we make mental judgements about that product and how it compares to our "standard." If we feel that it measures up to our standard, we go on the record as "liking" it. But sometimes we find ourselves enjoying things that we know in our minds don't measure up to our standard. In these cases, we may choose to only enjoy it in private. We may or may not feel guilty about telling others. Eventually, if more and more or less and less things are "guilty pleasures" for us, whether we like it or not, our standard may have changed. For instance, I'll bet Ryan Norris would consider the Beatles a guilty pleasure.

(Edited by jamiecarroll at 7:15 pm on Mar. 8, 2004)

in that case, i do too.

This is preposterous. I love the Beatles and always have (except when Zeppelin was king!). I'll go to the mat for the Fab Four any day. Well, maybe not Paul. I love the guy, but he's a cheesedick. He wrote some amazing songs, and he wrote some gimmicky trash, but what do I know. Viva John Lennon! And etcetera only likes things that involve black people.

You kiss your momma with that tongue!?!

ryan norris is the new de novo dahl of this message board

Cause they're all the same person.

That's strange. I thought for sure that I had met Ceeze and Cautioner. I even think I took a road trip with them...Now I'm just confused.

(Edited by StephanieW at 1:28 pm on Mar. 9, 2004)

It is all a figment of your imagination. Cautioner is my Tyler Durden, or vice versa.

damnit, man! with a 'u!' a 'u!' Poseur! only poseurs spell poseur as 'poser.'

my name is robert paulson

That's funny. I always hear you called jackass, dumbass, fro-head, and of course, Covo.

and if i wasn't afraid of being choked out, i'd talk shit too

His name was Robert Paulsen
His name was Robert Paulsen
His name was Robert Paulsen
His name was Robert Paulsen

I think this thread jumped the shark about two pages ago.

J

(Edited by somethingman at 8:28 pm on Mar. 11, 2004)

Scroll down on this page to see the other bands who aare scheduled to play this.

I'm assuming that we haven't been tricked and that "The Stokes" is just a typo. Well, I guess I know so since I've checked the Strokes website.

im really excited by this lineup. fountains of wayne, stereophonics, foo fighters, the strokes, styx...those are at the top of my list.

Ween and Foo Fighters. Sweet!!! I got a newsleter from FF saying they were playing the Memphis and Atlanta festivals. I guess Nashville is small potatoes. If I can at least see two of ween, ff, and strokes on the same day I might buy a ticket.

update: foos on friday, ween on saturday, and strokes on sunday. Son of a bitch!!!

(Edited by carligula at 12:36 pm on Mar. 25, 2004)

ill bet money that the strokes will pull out when they see that they are playing with venus hum and shawn colvin, to name a few.

they might be touring with someone else that is playing sunday night, that was the deal with the wallflowers and train a few years ago

Wow, I love me some Stereophonics (first 3 albums at least) so this is a welcome treat. Foo Fighters is a definite plus and hey, Wyclef Jean!

damnit! the strokes are playing with the walkmen in louisville. alas, it is sold out. sexy sadie and myself knew we should have gotten tickets. it would have made a great road trip. fuck!!!!

you guys suck. you should've told me. i would've bought tickets the first day. and we even have several places we could've stayed in louisville for free. losers.

Yeah, I said we should've gone before I knew the Walkmen were opening. It's Ray Davies' fault.

(Edited by Sexy Sadie at 1:13 pm on Mar. 29, 2004)

damnit man! for the love of god, i didn't even know they were playing louisville.

If I had money I'd get the tickets on ebay, but they're $61 + each. I'd definitely pay that much, if I had money.