Ryan Adams is a fucking turd waste of sperm and egg. He's a talentless piece of shit and I hope someone fucks up his pretty face.

i bet i hate ryan adams more than you do.

Surely not.

indeed i do.
AND
of all the lame musicians winona ryder has dated (and dumped), he's the only pansy who wrote, recorded, and released a song about it. boo fucking hooooooo.

hey now....supposedly winona ryder dated paul westerberg, and he is definitely not lame...

She also dated Beck, and didn't she bag a Stroke or two? She also dated the guy from Soul Asylum whose name has thankfully escaped me.

And I also don't think Ryan Adams is that bad. I think he is a very very funny guy. His speech about Liam mistaking him for Beck is genius.

(Edited by DigsySlattery at 4:09 pm on Nov. 8, 2002)

yeah, but soul asylum isnt all that great...and his name is dave pirner.

(Edited by ray davies at 4:09 pm on Nov. 8, 2002)

Welcome back neuboy & 2 thumbs up to your sentiments! In these days of message board niceties & apologies for having opinions, it's fun to have some bitterness & enmity again. Ryan Adams doesn't even have a pretty face

Neuboy, I know that I expressed my surprise and elation about your re-emergence in another thread, but let me just go on the record again as saying that it's great to have you back. Pay attention to this man's words, kids, he is what the Bible would call a prophet.

yeah i think she also dated pete yorn..

wow, neuboy i have read many old posts and thought you were hilarious and have awaited your return so its kind of ironic that in your first post you rag on my favorite artist..

i know we should all bow down to neuboy and everything he says but just because he is one of the coolest people i know, doesn't mean we have to agree with everything he says. now i know there are some ryan adams fans on this site who aren't speaking up for fear they will be rejected for disagreeing with neuboy (which i applaud you rachel for sticking by your man). i happen to like what i have heard and i don't see why you think he is such a waste of oxygen. simply saying he sucks isn't adequate enough for me. why do you think he sucks? because he is too mainstream? don't get me wrong- i think it is great that you have an opinion, and great that you have expressed it. i simply want to know why you hate him so much that you wish physical harm against him. i also think it takes a lot of guts to expose a private side of your life and if i dated winona ryder and she dumped me i know it would fuck me up pretty bad. and why does everyone think he is so ugly??? i think he is adorable. anywho...just stupid little thoughts that will probably be ignored anyways...please dont kick me off the board. i love neuboy!!! welcome back!

I surely don't agree with everything that neuboy says; I just like his personality and admire his perspective. But I suppose it's only a matter of time until he starts ripping into Self again...then I might just have to take back all of the nice things I've said about him...

i likes him. ryan adams is a very talented (if by talented, i mean prolific, which i do-granted i'll take quality over quanity any day, but when you write 300 songs, chances are there are going to be a couple of gems there). Heartbreaker is maybe my favorite break-up album of all time. yes, he's a spoiled little fuck-up drunk cunt who never had to work a real job his entire life, but aren't most good musicians (save the name sake of this message board). i agree he's been way too hyped and probably will be faded from memory in a couple of years. but...oh fuck it. i'm rambling.

oh, and i'll be dating wynona ryder in a matter of months.

"heartbreaker" is a very good album, an excellent album to be exact. however, "gold" is rather spotty(there are only about 5 good songs on the whole thing), and what i've heard of "demolition" is on par with "gold". i have yet to hear anyone say why they dont like ryan adams, i respect all of your opinions, but everyone hasnt explained why they dont like him.... or want to fuck up his pretty face....

He's boring. He's full of himself. He gets tons of hype so I've given his music more than a few listens and still he bores me. Nothing new, nothing special. Nothing worthy of hype or worship. In my opinion.

I'm glad someone finally gave an explanation. thanks, lauren.

I like Ryan Adams, especially Heartbreaker. And, Mindylieu, I think he is pretty cute, too...You aren't alone. It is true that he is quite full of himself. I will agree to that, too.

OK...I don't think that Ryan Adams' music sucks, per se. There are a handful of his songs that I like. I've listened to his stuff on several occasions, but have just "not gotten it." It's not awful music, it's just (in my opinion) mediocre and unoriginal music. But wait...I know that A LOT of people make mediocre and unoriginal music these days! I can sometimes stomach mediocre and unoriginal. But (in Adams' case) when you combine mediocre and unoriginal music with someone who thinks he's the shit and is generally a pretentious asshole, I lose all patience and want to vomit.

another nice explanation. this topic is finally becoming interesting.

You'll have to get by her prison bitch first. Or, are you the squirrel master?

I apologize for not being more clear as to my reasons for thinking that the aforementioned cunt waste of sperm and egg is not to my liking. First, I'll agree with both Lauren's and Ben's explanations. Mediocre, M.O.R. bullshit music + overly arrogant attitude = cunt waste of sperm and egg. I've heard a few too many stories about this prick that make my stomach turn. That thing at the Ryman for example. Grandstanding. He deserves whatever comparisons to Brian Adams he gets. They both make bland m.o.r. bullshit. He deserves that curse. Also, the "do not tow, Ryan Adams of Whiskeytown" story is pretty indicative as well. As far as the mainstream aspect, I don't really care how mainstream he is. I happen to enjoy bizarre off-kilter music quite a bit. That said, everything I listen to is not bizarre and off-kilter and I don't expect anyone to share my opinions about music or anything else. In fact, I invite everyone to disagree with me. I like to argue. If you think I'm full of shit, tell me so. I don't expect a reason. I just don't like the guy for the above reasons and many more that I can't think of right now. Rest assured, as soon as I remember them I'll let you know. Oh yeah, it's only a matter of time before that yes-man of a sideguy of his gets on the board and springs to his aid. What is that guy's name? I see him around town all the time. Christ, he's even more pathetic. He wrote in to the Scene defending his boy after someone wrote a disparaging article about him. What a twat.

Wow, I belive that is the first time the word "twat" has been used on this message board.

the debacle at the ryman proves how much of a spoiled brat he is. some people may think that it was funny, but heckling is just a part of show business, i suppose. he should expect someone to heckle him at least once during a show. for him to stop the show and ask that guy to leave, i thought, was appalling. that guy paid for a seat, he cant just pay him to leave like that. i mean who the hell does he think he is...axl rose?

however, all bickering aside, i still think that "heartbreaker" is a really good album...the other two are very bland.

(Edited by ray davies at 8:23 pm on Nov. 11, 2002)

Also...the "Give me five minutes and I'll blow your mind" story is pretty classic.

I have not weighed in on this topic yet. I kind like Ryan Adams. I am a reformed addict. Two years ago I was in love. I love Whiskeytown and probably always will. There were some amazing musicians other than Ryan in that band. My fav. Whiskeytown songs are the ones where Caitlin Cary sings. She is humble and very personable, unlike Ryan. Gold and Demolition have really turned me off. I think I am through with him now, he has plenty of other fans to worship him now.

About the Ryman incident, I read in Stomp and Stammer (Atlanta's answer to The Scene, but with lots of attitude) that Ryan had possibly paid someone to do this and cause a scene. The editior said he needed to stop trying to be like Andy Kaufman and just play music. Also, fellow Bloodshot label mate Robbie Fulks is offering 30.00 in merchandise for anyone to request Brian Adams songs and disrupt the shows.

Twat is in my top three funniest words of all time. We used to prank call people in high school, say "twat", and hang up. My friend from France would pronounce it so it rhymed with "cat", which was even funnier. Good times...

Actually, didn't thelawnwrangler call that FeaturesRNotSoGood kid or whatever his name was a twat once? I think it was in April. I had just started looking at the board then. It's in the Concert Reviews section...LW's post was some funny shit.

Lawnwrangler's Topic

I stand corrected. "Twat" was mentioned numerous times in that thread. Nice work, Stephanie.

A female flight attendant walks up to a man on her plane and offers him a beverage of his choice: "Would you like some TWA soda, TWA water, TWA coffee, TWA liquor..."

The man says: "How about some TWA tea"

hahaha. that was a good one. i got it, but several of my friends when told thought that the punch line was that it sounded like "twattie". but once they got it they found it very funny..

I knew that one would be a big hit with the High School crowd. Glad you liked it.

Disturbing that you find Ryan Adams' face to be "pretty."

you're disturbing

. . .you're a cigarette . . .

You'll die!

I rather like Ryan. I tend to like pretentious, pretty bastards in general, though. Heartbreaker's quite good, Gold is just too long, and the new one I haven't listened to enough to form a definite opinion.

i'm gonna run to you

i'm gonna run to you

cause when the feeling's right i'm gonna run all night

i'm gonna run to you

uh ....this thread DIDN'T NEED to be bumped up.

cause there's a bunch of haters on this bitch...and ryan is my home boy...

and uhhh..i heard a rumor that sugarsick had a fling with ryan adams once.

Did he write "New York New York" about her?

hmmmm...no ...new york new york was about noni....

answering bell was about sina.

um

i have no idea what you're talking about

and stuff.

so exactly how many songs have been written about sina? i'm sure rock stars far and wide have come into contact with her.

(Edited by ray davies at 9:02 pm on Jan. 15, 2003)

"rockstars are people, too."
this is so onica and anok. i am not a groupie. i say fuck, but i don't fuck. it's just that i can carry on a fun conversation with the people they work for without having to ask them if they would like something to drink. i'm fun, really. and i don't work for a record company and i don't care to be a musician. and i'm hot. (this is something i've just come to terms with.) but i'm smart and when it comes to business, i can talk LLC shit all day. (i may be going to law school)

how many songs? who knows. but it doesn't matter. don't feel threatened. i'm not going to pull a c.lo and marry everyone's favourite rockstar and ruin his music career. my god, i married a computer programmer who's been writing software since he was 12 and doesn't listen to music.

rhinestone cowboy should post his picture of him and rufus wainwright.

fuck that...I was a fatass int hose pictures.

i was looking at the pic of sugarplum and billy pumpkin c. the other night. it made me wanna cry.

isn't it retarded when a married 'rockstar' get excited when you go backstage because he thinks you're there to talk to him, but you're not. i can't believe he threw his guitar pic to me. freak.

I love how this topic resurfaces every few weeks or so- it still makes me feel good to read "Fuck Ryan Adams"

See Ryan Adams' new album get ripped apart here.

thats the first bad review ive read.

i listened to rock n roll on his website and was disappointed. i didnt think it was bad but it was too different. now hes trying to be all badass but i just want the depressing love songs back. has anyone heard love is hell yet?

hahaha

i'll fuck ryan adams.

and yes, rock&roll is much different from his previous work...especially heartbreaker. that seems to be the theme, though... he never sticks with anything too long. gold was much more mainstream...with great pop melodies thrown all over the place, and demolition... was just fucking perfect. what's wrong with changing the makeup a little? keeps things fresh in my book.

i picked up love is hell vol 1 this weekend, and have already lost the damn thing it seems. he does a cover of wonderwall. had me questioning a bit. his voice is lush.
rachel,
i'd recommend it, especially if you like his softer stuff.

::he loves most everybody, and does not want to start anymore trouble. plus he loves cats::

(Edited by enemyroses at 3:32 pm on Nov. 10, 2003)

the fucking ryman story was blown sooo out of proportion.
heckling may be part of show business but it's still disrespectful.
the fucker was disrupting the show for everyone else.
seems like the only spoiled brat there was the heckler.

i dont remember writing that. i believe my ex-roomate wrote that while i was still signed in on his computer.

yeah yeah

i like your new avatar.

thanks. i love that picture of francoise hardy.

dont hate me because i'm great..my new record is awesome, and you all can kiss my ass!
ryan adams

Matt!!! RPG!!!!